thank you! you guys are right! aint nobody a damn GROUPIE though just bc of who we think is right or wrong...

DRU STUPID, HE DONT LIKE ASHLEY SO HE PURPOSLY DO STUFF. I SEE WHY SHE DONT LIKE HIM, CUZ HE TRIED HER LIKE SHE WAS JUST LIKE ONE OF HIS GROUPIES IN THE BEGINNING. HE DONT HAVE NO STANDARDS OR HE WOULDNT BE WITH A DIFFERENT GIRL EVERYNIGHT, AND I COULDNT LIKE HIM EITHER. HE MAKIN HIMSELF LOOK AS LOW AS THE GIRLS HE SLEEPIN WITH, HE JUST AS DIRTY, U LAY WITH CATS, U GET DESEASES. LOL

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>kelz_da_boss_lady wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">yall are sayin they acting ignorant but yall on here actin the same way how bout yall just look at the bigger picture...we as black people should find the whole this to be a disgrace...i aint sidin wit nobody...they both was wrong so wat yall on here gettin made for... they are all on here being bad example of educated indepenedent black people</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree. Some people on here are acting just as bad as the people on the show were acting. And then they say that the cast members are acting ignorant.

I don't think that because we are black we are have to "act holy." But, I do think that we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Since people expect nothing more than ignorance, anger, violence and baffoonery when they see us portrayed in shows - we have to discredit those assumptions by proving the opposite. It can seem unfair that we have to prove to everyone that we are better than their assumptions, but that was the hand that we were dealt...So we can choose to uphold the stereotypes and assumptions or we can choose to discredit them...

well said, t-rose. you took the words right out of my mouth.

omg i agree to all my homegurl below me is sayin like anthony said ashley was juss waitin for somethin to pop off dru wasnt go say nuttin so she took somethin soo simple and turned it into somethin big she always in sumones buissness Dorian was talkin to dru not the whole table and she had no right throwin his buissness out there like that i think that ashley likes him on the down low she juss needs to ask for da *** and get it ova wit im tired of that mouth and druski should have knocked the *8* outta her *** she talk to damn much i would be ready to kill a ***.she needes to tell him her feelings and get it ova wit instead of playin hard to get.she kno she easy

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>t-rose915 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">I don't think that because we are black we are have to "act holy." But, I do think that we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Since people expect nothing more than ignorance, anger, violence and baffoonery when they see us portrayed in shows - we have to discredit those assumptions by proving the opposite. It can seem unfair that we have to prove to everyone that we are better than their assumptions, but that was the hand that we were dealt...So we can choose to uphold the stereotypes and assumptions or we can choose to discredit them...<br /></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> I personally don't think that this kind of behavior is the hand that we were dealt. Nobody formulated people's mind into thinking that the race is ignorant except black people. And black shows continue to feed the minds of those that already think our race is ignorant. But like you said, we need to discredit them for ourselves.

um the person below what im sayn...are u not gettin the bigger picture no body right...because guess what they are repesenting black people as if we all ignorant and have no sense and if u promote violence there is something wrong with the way u handle problems

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>t-rose915 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">I don't think that because we are black we are have to "act holy." But, I do think that we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Since people expect nothing more than ignorance, anger, violence and baffoonery when they see us portrayed in shows - we have to discredit those assumptions by proving the opposite. It can seem unfair that we have to prove to everyone that we are better than their assumptions, but that was the hand that we were dealt...So we can choose to uphold the stereotypes and assumptions or we can choose to discredit them...<br /></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> i agree with u somewhat but i could really care less of what people think i act like..not only black people act this way..

<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>kelz_da_boss_lady wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">um the person below what im sayn...are u not gettin the bigger picture no body right...because guess what they are repesenting black people as if we all ignorant and have no sense and if u promote violence there is something wrong with the way u handle problems</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree. People are just so open to being violent that it's sad. I mean, come on now, is all this stuff going to matter when you get old? Seriously? People think too much in the present than in the future. This isn't aimed at anyone but I'm just generally speaking.

Miami, this behavior is not what we were dealt, but stereotypes, which we as a people choose to perpetuate. Regardless of this "melting pot" we call America, whites are still holding most of the keys, and guarding most of the doors, and we are only a few generations removed from blackface and Jim Crow; those are not ideas formulated by us. If we are not to be left behind, we have some things to prove, we need to hold up our end of the deal.

LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF PENT UP ANGER, CUZ ASHLEY L AND DORIAN HAVE PENT UP ANGER, DORIAN'S JUST HASNT EXPLODED LIKE ASHLEY'S. BUT IT WILL. FIRST HE HAD TO SLEEP IN ASHLEY BED THEN DRU TRIED TO HOLLA AT HIS GIRL. HE GOT SUM PENT UP ANGER. DRU JUST WENT OFF, HE PROLLY GOT ANGER MANAGMENT PROBLEMS. 3 STRIKES

caramel, of course we are not the only ones that behave in this manner, however, we are the only ones expected to behave in this manner. And even though these people are individuals, they are representing to the general non-black public for us, good or bad. Every one does not have the presence to realize that we all don't act alike.

I agree with you. Black people were behind when other black people were selling the people of their race to be used as slaves before blacks even came to America. But in my opinion, even though black people are technically still behind, like you have said, it's not because of just white people which a lot of black people tend to think. Nobody can hold anyone back more than themselves. And as you've said, people have chosen to perpetuate stereotypes. And because of that, people need to realize that we're better than what's been portrayed of us on t.v. And like you said, we have things to prove and we need to hold up our end of the deal.

I have to agree with you Shaqueesha, I mean a man wont buck up to hit a beautiful women, a man knows what to say, and clearly this *6* is not a real man. He needs to understand that he has not had a good relationship with anybody from day zero, and he messed up when he started showing disrepect for the young beautiful ladies in the house. I mean I am in college myself, I am young also, but clearly you dont see me acting like a true *6* on national television. I act civilized on and off set. I am the same no matter what not just in front of important people. If somebody was wrong it was him.