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    05-12-2008, 6:28 AM
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Hmm [^o)] Is Obama really the man blacks need?
Monday, May 12, 2008 Is Obama really the man blacks need? By Star Parker

It appears that Barack Obama has survived a tough couple of weeks. In the words of some, he's shown that "he can take a punch."

But, frankly, I think Senator Obama is still getting kid gloves treatment from a press corps that tilts left.

Despite the hounding about his "bitterness" remarks, and the ongoing story of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, there's been hardly 10 seconds of attention about his incredible statement that he wouldn't want his daughters "punished with a baby" if they "make a mistake."

This in a discussion about HIV/AIDS in which he said that contraception should be included alongside of abstinence in sex education.

Regarding his two young daughters, Obama said, "I am going to teach them first about values and morals."

First? What are values and morals if there is a second? Faith, of course, includes forgiveness. But values and morals are absolutes. There is a world of difference between forgiveness and teaching alternative paths.

There have been questions, appropriate questions, about how Barack Obama could have been sitting in the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years and suddenly, today, realize he does not agree with him. How so?

We have a good possible answer here. Religion for Senator Obama is not something too serious. It may satisfy some social needs and provide intellectual and emotional salve. But it doesn't translate into behavioral absolutes.

The arena for addressing life's dilemmas for Obama is politics not religion. So, in this sense, Pastor Wright had it right. His former congregant is first and foremost a politician.

In answering a question about abortion while campaigning in Iowa last year, the always deliberative Obama said: "I think the American people struggle with two principles: There's the principle that the fetus is not just an appendage, it's potential life ... They also believe that women should have some control over their bodies ..."

The fetus is "potential life?"

Shortly after the Supreme Court's decision last year upholding the constitutionality of the ban on partial birth abortions, Obama spoke at a Planned Parenthood conference in Washington, D.C. Condemning the court's decision, he said that it was part of "a concerted effort to steadily roll back" legal abortions.

Criticizing Justice Anthony Kennedy, who wrote the majority opinion in the case, Obama said, "Justice Kennedy knows many things, but my understanding is that he does not know how to be a doctor."

Of course, Kennedy's job is not to be a doctor, but to be a judge. And in doing so, he included in his opinion testimony of a nurse who participated in a partial birth abortion procedure:

"The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his little feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors in the back of his head, and the baby's arms jerked out ...The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high powered suction tube into the opening, and sucked the baby's brains out ... Now the baby went completely limp. He threw the baby in a pan, along with the placenta, and the instruments he had just used."

Thus the end of what, for Obama, was "potential life."

Nat Hentoff, no conservative, but a libertarian who writes for the "Village Voice,'' calls Obama the "infanticide candidate."

In a recent column, Hentoff noted that, while in the Illinois State Senate, Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. This Act addressed cases where, during an abortion procedure, the live infant was actually born. The Act would have banned killing the living child.

Responding to John McCain's remarks delivered the other day at Wake Forest University about law and judges, Obama contrasted McCain's pledge of "judicial constraint" with his own concept of legal activism.

Obama said he'd seek out judges "who are sympathetic to those who are on the outside, those who are vulnerable, those who are powerless."

Aside from this bizarre idea about the role of law, what irony there is in hearing this from a man with zero empathy for our most vulnerable -- the helpless infant in the womb.

For the 90 percent of blacks who are casting votes for Obama, know that almost 50 million children have been aborted since Roe V. Wade in 1973, a third of which were black babies. Is this really the man whom our community needs?

Star Parker is the founder and president of CURE, the Coalition on Urban Renewal & Education, a 501c3 non-profit organization that provides national dialogue on issues of race and poverty in the media, inner city neighborhoods, and public policy.


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher (1788-1860)
  
    05-12-2008, 9:40 AM
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Re: Is Obama really the man blacks need?
The question and article should really asked is McCain the man black people need. Rev. Wright is going to Rev. Wright. Obama will be Obama. There are plenty of other pastors(even the ones who are tv) who have said the most outlandish ish ever and no one is screaming at them. Obama for 2008.
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    05-12-2008, 1:45 PM
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No [N] Re: Is Obama really the man blacks need?
I pointed this out in my forum "I believe some of what Obamas says" a few months ago.  I think his charactor is questionable for a presidential candidate. I also think the other candidates are lukewarm.
  
    05-16-2008, 5:11 PM
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Re: Is Obama really the man blacks need?
 brooklyntrail wrote:The question and article should really asked is McCain the man black people need. Rev. Wright is going to Rev. Wright. Obama will be Obama. There are plenty of other pastors(even the ones who are tv) who have said the most outlandish ish ever and no one is screaming at them. Obama for 2008.Except when viewed from the context of the candidates, no candidate called these - so called outlandish pastors spiritual advisor, mentor etc. etc.  
  
    05-16-2008, 5:20 PM
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Re: Is Obama really the man blacks need?
 girl_friend wrote:I pointed this out in my forum "I believe some of what Obamas says" a few months ago.  I think his charactor is questionable for a presidential candidate. I also think the other candidates are lukewarm.Agreed!!  I just love how McCain has now become the ultimate flip-flopper. Lets look at these numbers:1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act of abortion. 3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child. Since 1973 there has been over 13 million Black children killed and their precious mothers victimized by the U.S. abortion industry.How does this happen?   Partial birth abortion equals murder.  Somehow the 'Christians' - to including Obama - among us, often overlook this.
  
    05-16-2008, 6:37 PM
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Re: Is Obama really the man blacks need?
Don't criticize Obama if you didn't get mad at the "first black president" (B. Clinton), when he vetoed the republican-backed ban on partial birth abortion in 1996.I'm voting for McCain, but won't be that mad when Obama beats him.I'm only against abortion when it's used instead of birth control (condoms, birth control pills, etc), and unlike most in my party (republican), I think in certain situations abortion is okay.   I don't see why the cruel partial birth abortion is legal.
  
    05-16-2008, 9:11 PM
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Re: Is Obama really the man blacks need?
The real solution is to get rid of the woman's reason to have an abortion. Also the pro-lifers need to be more active in helping with the quality of life for those already born.
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