Because I'm don't call myself a christian I don't know????  POPPYC/O/C/K!!!

Do you honestly believe that GOD himself approves of these people TEACHING other people to pursue the things of THIS world in HIS name?? 

Is that what its all about???  I GOD himself told you..."THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE OF GOD" and you did nothing to tell the people that are following them he would be happy with you??

Like I keep saying....It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what these people are about ...THAT COLD HARD CA*73*

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babycakes the bible does warn us against fales teachers/prophets, etc 2 Peter 2 chapter. You may want to read up on it!!!

@jadestryker....................Huh????? No my friend you may want to understand exactly what I said to EARL since he is in here saying the mislead is going to hell so I seriously wanted to know where he read that in the bible. I never professed to know each page of the bible but make sure to put my study time in. And FYI I know that the bible actually stresses about the warning of false prophets, but thanks anyway for the advice......But does it actually say the mislead will go to hell, that was my question dear......If you make a statement like that when it comes to God's word, I feel you should have scripture to back it up..... it's important, so I will make a mental note to study it further once I'm done with the book of proverbs.......

 I personally don't know what side Juanita or her Hubby is because I have never followed their ministries. In a case like this people are so quick judge and slow to pray for those that truly need it and that the truth will be revealed............

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 swtearl wrote:

Because I'm don't call myself a christian I don't know????  POPPYC/O/C/K!!!

Are you being disrespectful?? It would be a shame if you are but,  if you are, you just showed me what type of level your on and I am so far and above that.....

Do you honestly believe that GOD himself approves of these people TEACHING other people to pursue the things of THIS world in HIS name?? 

Like I said before, I have NEVER heard Juantia & her Hubby speak, NEVER attended their church, NEVER been to a convention, NEVER bought a book or a tape. You think I'm suppose to take your word for it that these two are fakes and phonys, And I'm am not in the business of researching them and studying their ministry just so I can proved they are fake and then call them out, thats a lot of time wasted when I could be out there bringing souls to Jesus, telling our youth about God, studying my bible for the simple truth and living my life for God, God gave full and complete instructions of what he wants his people to do and am not in the business anymore of playing around with time and niether should any Chrisitan trying to live for God!!!  You think I should get on the stage at Bishop Weeks church and tell his congregation he's a fruad, sorry my friend but thats not what God would want me to do, so if thats what you want to do.......by all means my brother,since this seems to be such a charged issue for you!!!! 

To the believers I say, Sometimes situations are out of our control and all we can do is pray!! God will lift up who needs to be lifted up and bring those to their knees that need to be there. Now Mr. Earl Do you believe that in your heart. DO you beleive God is TRULY in control of ALL situations, I pray you do!!!!!Do you understand what I'm saying??????????????????

Is that what its all about???  I GOD himself told you..."THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE OF GOD" and you did nothing to tell the people that are following them he would be happy with you??

OOOkay, and where is the part that says those people will go to the everlasting lake of fire that is "HELL" like you so kindly stated.... My pastor and my church are teaching the truth and opening people's eyes to what God really wants for us, changing hearts, souls and minds one person at a time through GODS true and divine word and it is just a joyous thing to do that, so don't worry abot if God is happy with me. You can't change the world all at one time Earl and you know it....it's a process and my church CCC is doing a fine job, so I'm happy with the direction were going because we are ACTUALLY doing it and not just talking about it or spending useless time talking about what what next pastor don't do and going in for an attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How about you worry about this Earl...... Is God happy with you Earl, since your so worried about others, is he happy with you and the way you live your life. Jesus told his diciples "Let a man examine himself"!!!!!!! If you haven't I encourage you to let God in your heart

Like I keep saying....It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what these people are about ...THAT COLD HARD CA*73*

Well now that Earl has told the world that, what next Earl? Picket signs outside their church, interviews on CNN bashing them. Telling their congregation their going to hell because they were following their ministry?  Come on Earl!!!

 I pray peace is in your life........

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I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! I NEVER TRUSTED ANY TELEVISION EVANGLANICALS!!!

NEVER TRUST THE PREACHERMAN - HE IS JUST OUT THERE TO GET YOUR MONEY AND SAYS IT IN THE NAME OF GOD!!!

 cubsfan1973 wrote:

I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! I NEVER TRUSTED ANY TELEVISION EVANGLANICALS!!!

NEVER TRUST THE PREACHERMAN - HE IS JUST OUT THERE TO GET YOUR MONEY AND SAYS IT IN THE NAME OF GOD!!!

Well I do have to agree with you cubsfan!  Their whole point and purpose is to get YOUR MONEY IN THE NAME OF GOD!!! Then flaunt their life style (the one that the people paid for) in their faces and let them know they can have it to if they only BELIEVE!!!!

Millions follow these people and millions will burn in hell because of it.  Damn shame that more "CHRISTIANS" refuse to speak up against it. 

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 swtearl wrote: cubsfan1973 wrote:

I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! I NEVER TRUSTED ANY TELEVISION EVANGLANICALS!!!

NEVER TRUST THE PREACHERMAN - HE IS JUST OUT THERE TO GET YOUR MONEY AND SAYS IT IN THE NAME OF GOD!!!

Well I do have to agree with you cubsfan!  Their whole point and purpose is to get YOUR MONEY IN THE NAME OF GOD!!! Then flaunt their life style (the one that the people paid for) in their faces and let them know they can have it to if they only BELIEVE!!!!

Millions follow these people and millions will burn in hell because of it.  Damn shame that more "CHRISTIANS" refuse to speak up against it. 

And it's just as much a shame that you can run around saying who will burn in hell without God's word to back it up!!!! You don't get it, but I pray one day you will because all your belly aching and complaining and slandering will do nothing for your own soul and nothing to help the kingdom of God!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a christian and you know the truth and you witness to people in God's name and help bring them to Christ with the truth of God's word then guess what????? You ARE doing something about it, thats the way we as christians are to speak up and fight againist the enemy....with God's word...Gods word is our sword!!! We are not to fight with slander nor with  with a sharp tougue or a spiteful heart the bible say only the foolish do those things(read proverbs)....Hello is it clicking yet???????? My church is spreading the truth EVERYDAY and I know MANY Christian ministries that do, but worldy people never see the good things, nver see the true churches that feed the poor worldwide and leave a mark in their community... they only see the bad and those that falsely come in God's name and then judge ALL God's people the same way. It's not right or just and When you judge, expect God to do the same to you!!!!!!!!!!!

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 babycakes111 wrote: swtearl wrote: cubsfan1973 wrote:

I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! I NEVER TRUSTED ANY TELEVISION EVANGLANICALS!!!

NEVER TRUST THE PREACHERMAN - HE IS JUST OUT THERE TO GET YOUR MONEY AND SAYS IT IN THE NAME OF GOD!!!

Well I do have to agree with you cubsfan!  Their whole point and purpose is to get YOUR MONEY IN THE NAME OF GOD!!! Then flaunt their life style (the one that the people paid for) in their faces and let them know they can have it to if they only BELIEVE!!!!

Millions follow these people and millions will burn in hell because of it.  Damn shame that more "CHRISTIANS" refuse to speak up against it. 

And it's just as much a shame that you can run around saying who will burn in hell without God's word to back it up!!!! You don't get it, but I pray one day you will because all your belly aching and complaining and slandering will do nothing for your own soul and nothing to help the kingdom of God!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a christian and you know the truth and you witness to people in God's name and help bring them to Christ with the truth of God's word then guess what????? You ARE doing something about it, thats the way we as christians are to speak up and fight againist the enemy....with God's word...Gods word is our sword!!! We are not to fight with slander nor with  with a sharp tougue or a spiteful heart the bible say only the foolish do those things(read proverbs)....Hello is it clicking yet???????? My church is spreading the truth EVERYDAY and I know MANY Christian ministries that do, but worldy people never see the good things, nver see the true churches that feed the poor worldwide and leave a mark in their community... they only see the bad and those that falsely come in God's name and then judge ALL God's people the same way. It's not right or just and When you judge, expect God to do the same to you!!!!!!!!!!!

SLandering??   I think not...like i said before...somebody has to expose these FRAUDS for what they are....FRAUDS and SNAKE OIL SALESMEN!!!

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Also...If some are doing things in the community and still have 10's of millions in their personal bank accounts...that mean they can do a hell of alot more!!!

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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>swtearl wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>babycakes111 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>swtearl wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>cubsfan1973 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"> <P><FONT face=Garamond color=#000080 size=4><STRONG><EM>I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! I NEVER TRUSTED ANY TELEVISION EVANGLANICALS!!! </EM></STRONG></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Garamond color=#000080 size=4><STRONG><EM>NEVER TRUST THE PREACHERMAN - HE IS JUST OUT THERE TO GET YOUR MONEY AND SAYS IT IN THE NAME OF GOD!!! </EM></STRONG></FONT></P A true Christian knows better so since you seem ready to lead the protest then you do it. I will just continue to pray for the lost and fallen and continue to use my bible as my weapon And bring souls to Christ and if you are a non believer I would not expect you to understand. See when truly acept CHrist into your heart your purpose changes and don't have to fight or speak against someone because he handles it all and out of honor and respect for him you never take matters into your own hands! Proverbs chap 10 talks about being sensible and keeping you mouth shut and not speaking against your neighbor and that god will handle the wicked and remove them from the land of the living so you whatever you do and I do what my god says! <P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE></P> <P>Well I do have to agree with you cubsfan!  Their whole point and purpose is to get YOUR MONEY IN THE NAME OF GOD!!! Then flaunt their life style (the one that the people paid for) in their faces and let them know they can have it to if they only BELIEVE!!!!</P> <P>Millions follow these people and millions will burn in hell because of it.  Damn shame that more "CHRISTIANS" refuse to speak up against it. </P> <P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4><B><BR><FONT face=Georgia size=4>And it's just as much a shame that you can run around saying who will burn in hell without God's word to back it up!!!! You don't get it, but I pray one day you will because all your belly aching and complaining and slandering will do nothing for your own soul and nothing to help the kingdom of God!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a christian and you know the truth and you witness to people in God's name and help bring them to Christ with the truth of God's word then guess what????? You ARE doing something about it, thats the way we as christians are to speak up and fight againist the enemy....with God's word...Gods word is our sword!!! We are not to fight with slander nor with  with a sharp tougue or a spiteful heart the bible say only the foolish do those things(read proverbs)....Hello is it clicking yet????????<BR><BR> My church is spreading the truth EVERYDAY and I know MANY Christian ministries that do, but worldy people never see the good things, nver see the true churches that feed the poor worldwide and leave a mark in their community... they only see the bad and those that falsely come in God's name and then judge ALL God's people the same way. It's not right or just and When you judge, expect God to do the same to you!!!!!!!!!!! </FONT></B></FONT><BR></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE></P> <P>SLandering??   I think not...like i said before...somebody has to expose these FRAUDS for what they are....FRAUDS and SNAKE OIL SALESMEN!!!</P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>swtearl wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Also...If some are doing things in the community and still have 10's of millions in their personal bank accounts...that mean they can do a hell of alot more!!!</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> What are you talking about and who are you talking about? Boy you sure seem to know how much folks have and what they give and don't give. What do you give earl? Do you sow any time and fund to the poor and needy. Unlike you I don't have time to worry and tally what ministry gives and don't give that's none of my business really. I know what my church and my non profit organization does in the community and that's what matters and I know god is pleased with what we do and the large amount of time and money we give. News flash earl no one is put on this earth to please to your not god so please get off of it.... It really sad sweetie and makes no sense. Maybe its an attention thing? Get gods attention that the only attention that matters! And let me know when you are ready to give to the poor because I know plenty of organizations were you could be of service!

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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day...teach him to fish and he'll eat the rest of his life!!!

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Babycakes did you even read what I posted. I placed a scripture there for you to read. If you read that whole chapter is clearly states that following false teachers leads to destruction. In the biblical sense sense destruction is spiritual separation from GOD This is no different than the Revelation that some will follow the anto-christ (a false teacher) to destruction. It is no different than the Angels who followed Lucifer and were cast down from heaven!!! The point is that the Bible why would GOD give us a warning for something that would not lead to our spiritual falling/destruction. That is what a warning does, it alerts you to something that is harmful to you. False teachers are harmful to charistians so if you are following them you are following the path of spiritial destruction- So I did back it up with scriptural references I see you just did not take the time to read and let it meditate on your heart

 jadestryker wrote:Babycakes did you even read what I posted. I placed a scripture there for you to read. If you read that whole chapter is clearly states that following false teachers leads to destruction. In the biblical sense sense destruction is spiritual separation from GOD This is no different than the Revelation that some will follow the anto-christ (a false teacher) to destruction. It is no different than the Angels who followed Lucifer and were cast down from heaven!!! The point is that the Bible why would GOD give us a warning for something that would not lead to our spiritual falling/destruction. That is what a warning does, it alerts you to something that is harmful to you. False teachers are harmful to charistians so if you are following them you are following the path of spiritial destruction- So I did back it up with scriptural references I see you just did not take the time to read and let it meditate on your heartYou are not understanding what I'm saying WHERE OH WHERE does it say the mislead will go to hell, since hell was mention by Earl I wanted to know where  if you know please tell me???????????????????2 Peter chap 2 reads (New Living Translation)"But there will be false prophets in Isreal just as there will be false prophets amoung you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the master who brought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get  hold of your money. But GOD condemed them long ago and their destruction will not be delayed."I just typed the first 3 verses of chapter 3 and I read further into chapter 2 and the dangers of false prophets. Now where exactly did you see the part that says that the people that are following these false prophets will go to hell, where exactly does it say anything remotely cloes to that. No wit talks about what will happen to the flase prophets, but where does hell fit in for the mislead. I am truly asking because maybe I just don't see it, so since you seem to know a bit more on this issure, please share, from the bible, not your own words. This is what I got from it:   Peter is talking about flase prophets bringing spiritual destruction on themseleves  Spiritual destruction is very harmful yes, but just like God saved Lot out of Sodom and Gomorrah don't you think that God can give another chance to the mislead.  Maybe the mislead don't know they are being brainwashed or decieved, God is a God of second chances he has saved many people from liars and decievers all through the bible, why can't he do it now especially for his people that have been born again and may have gotten caught up in flase teachings it's a shame, but it's true and it's been happening from the beginning of time. Shoot my husband a long time ago went to a church where the pastor was misleading his congregation and only cared out preaching about money and one day my husband got a word from God in his spirit that this man wasn't real and something wasn't right and got out of that ministry and situation real fast...God saved him from it, God will speak to his people, yes they have to have common sense and know danger when it comes to them and stay in the word of God for themselves but I think the last thing he wants to see is all his people in a handbasket to hell, really God doesn't want to see anyone in hell, but some people will go there because of their sexual immortality, cheating, decieving, stealing etc.....2 Peter Chap 2 verser 9 says"The Lord knows how to rescue godly people from their trails, even while keeping the wicked under punishment until the day of final judgement."

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 swtearl wrote:

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day...teach him to fish and he'll eat the rest of his life!!!

I teach people to fi*73*

LOL!! OOOOOOOK Earl what ever you say. Just know that babycakes111 I wishes you many blessing, the truth of Gods word and peace in your life..........Keep your heart, soul and mind centered and focused on Christ, not Chrisitans........

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