Hip Hop Vs. America

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    09-26-2007, 9:38 PM
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When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
My mother taught me that I am more than my hip and thighs. I plan to teach my daughter the same! The reason these "video models" are only around for a few years and then disappear is beasue they aren't putting anything else (ei. brains) with all that booty shaking. It can only get you so far. Melissa Ford was lucky or maybe even smart enough to parlay being a video girl into other opportunities, but she need not act like a saint. I hate a hypocrite.
  
    09-26-2007, 9:44 PM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
I feel you. When will people take responsibility for their actions. God gave people free will, use it wisely. And Melissa Ford and Karrine Stefens.....i dont even listen to what they have to say. No put a gun to and told you to shake your behind. And didnt Karrine Stefens do a porno with some black dude (shakes head)
  
    09-26-2007, 9:52 PM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
I agree with you. I am only 16 but Hip Hop is pretty much raising my generation. We live our lives based off what we see on t.v and what some artist says doing. I personally do not listen to Hip Hop or Rap I listen to some R&B and if I do, it will be I guess you can say "clean" and not all that very sexual music, for example, Trey Songz "In the Middle." You can tell by the title of what the song will be about. We see songs such as Nelly's "Grillz" and now everywhere I go I see someone with those pieces of trash in their mouths. I choose not to let Hip Hop rule my world, nor will I let it affeect my chances of getting my education and hopefully becoming an attorney. God Bless!
  
    09-27-2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
I don't think that hip hop is raising everyones kids, I think only the ones that don't have the mothers at home that actually care. The kids that don't have no type of influence but of what they see on television. I believe if you raise your kids the right way and set a good example then they won't be the ones to worry about but the children that have parents that run the streets with them and drink with them and smoke with them those are the ones to worry about. But I'm not just going to say that even though that has alot to do woth it but some of those children still make a difference in their lives and want better for themselves. Like Nelly said it's time to stop thinking about what has been and think about now and I think that parents need to be responsible role model because it is true children emulate what they see and their much more likely to emulate their home enviroment before what they see on television.
  
    09-27-2007, 4:04 AM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!

But lets be serious. How many kids look up to thier parents. the lack of role models...let me change that, the lack of knowledge about black people that are doing something other than rapping is lacking in our society. It seems that the black society glamourizes being rappers, atheletes, and video vixens. There is no glamoourizing finishing school, going to college, being a doctor, lawyer, nurse, accountant, and anything else. We have an imbalace of information that is being delivered via videos, music, movies, and tv.

 

 

  
    09-27-2007, 5:42 AM
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Lightning [li] Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
Yeah, I agree with gmcgee, if hip-hop is raising our kids it's because nobody's there to separate the game from the truth.  I believe in education and not censorship.  Whatever a child may see on t.v. is simply information, but it takes a parent to give them the proper knowledge of that information.  If they're home alone for hours watching television and seeing new things while they're at an impressionalbe age, then they're gonna draw their own conclusions about what they see and hear and, depending on the child, that can be dangerous.  That's why (and it might sound old fashioned) I think women should be full time mothers rather than join the work force.  Raising a child is a full time job in itself, if it's done right (no offence to working mothers).  That's why I think it's important that, as men, we be upstanding, responsible, loving, hardworking providers so that our women can be in the position to devote the proper time to rearing children and making a house a home.  I'm sure there are a lot of independent women out there who would disagree, and they probably don't have a man........ or a real one anyway.  Don't get me wrong, fathers need to be heavily involved as well, but there's a nurturing quality that only mothers possess.  It takes a mother to teach a daughter how to respect herself, and how to be a future mother and wife.  It takes a mother to teach a son how to truly love and respect a woman, and to show him what to look for in a future wife and mother of his children.  So that when he sees these video girls and promiscuous girls around the way he'll say to himself "This girl has no respect for herself."   When guys start choosing the girls who respect themselves over the girls who objectify themselves, then you'll see a pattern of young girls growing up with self respect and making  men respect them, and then our culture will reflect that pattern.
  
    09-27-2007, 6:30 PM
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Huh? [:^)] Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
Answer:  years ago
  
    09-28-2007, 6:53 AM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
HipHop never raised our kids. It's the parents who raise their own for destruction or for the better. Hiphop only is talkin to these kids and letting them know that this is what is actually going on in this world wheither we like it or not. It's sad that mothers and fathers who havent gone through what these rappers have experienced in their daily lives wanna point to hiphop and why their daughters and sons are the way they is. Your Daughter and Sons were going to be Failures or better wheither you liked it or not. I watch hiphop videos everyday but I dont wanna do the things they portray but it only makes me wanna go out and get money and I dont have to degrade anyone to get it. If there werent females out there who werent sleeping around with rappers, and other folks, and if there wasnt drugs and killings in this world then hiphop wouldnt ever existed, but hiphop reflects what is out there. But before you say who are raising yourkids, look at yourselves first
  
    10-14-2007, 12:36 AM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
Just becuz you watch videoes don't mean you have to live like those you see on tv. If you have common sense then you know you don't have to be like everyone you see on tv. Hell, you don't have to be like those around you on a daily basis. You can still enjoy hip hop and all that comes with it and still be yourself. Hip hop for some people is pure entertainment. And for others hip hop music is a life lesson. Its all about how you choose to recieve it. I see hip hop music as a good thing. I was raised on hip hop and still love today. Hip hop is not raising our children. If the parents are involved in their children's lives and teach their children right from wrong then hip hop can't raise your child.
  
    10-14-2007, 7:16 PM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
Agree with you, I think we don't give enough exposure,praise and attention to other fields, more special proffessional, so that is where the generation will go, from what they see and what is considered cool.
  
    10-14-2007, 7:20 PM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
I agree with you, because who doesn't wanna look cool, we look there on tv too. But parents continue to teach your kids what is right, but we don't only look to our parents, let's face it.If they praise it there on screen, offcourse we wanna do it too.
  
    10-16-2007, 2:13 AM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!

...It may not be raising but it damn sure is effecting them so I dont know if this is a post trying to defend the negative position it is in or not but let me tell you why.  When you watch TV now all you see is rap artist rapping about money and flaunting it.  And they whips with them 20's rims on it.  I dunno if it is just me but when I was back in high school I seen kids drop out talking about they wanna be a rapper and when you listen to they lyrics it is as bad as those you see on T.V.  I aint saying nothing wrong with it but take soulja boy for example.  Lots of people saying "Aww just doing it for the kids and it is positive."  So I guess you bought his album and heard the song "Report Card" and how he says "Man I looked at my report and I got all F's but I told my teacher to THROW SOME D'S ON THAT B****."  Seems like soulja boy could have been rapping about something positive but since you see all these gangsta rappers thats about as far as that kid is going to get.

Remember the song, "whoop whoop chicken head."  O guess what this is why our young females are being called chicken heads now.  You see what I am trying to get here most kids who want to be rappers are going to mimic off the ones they see now and thus keep living the stereotype of blacks.  I wonder what shows a black female has to watch to learn how to shake her a** hmmm?  Last time I checked all hip hop vidoes show that.  And it also shows how they dress to.  And you see why most young black females dress the way they do now also.  So plz dont ignore the fact at what impact it is having on the kids.

  
    01-12-2008, 2:22 AM
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Tongue Tied [:S] Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!
I am a 15 year old female and I understand the point that you are trying to make. But hip hop is not that serious. Believe it or not, hip hop doesnt control everyones lives. People control themselves. You may hear or see something that music artist do but its your choice to start copying them.....Oh and Trey Songz is GREAT!!!!
  
    01-12-2008, 3:35 AM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!

I can agree and disagree at the same time!  That may sound crazy but....

Back in the day Hip Hop wasn't about the stuff that it is about today.  It was all positive.  For ex: LL, Run DMC, Whodini, Public enemy, Salt-n-Pepa etc.... They all had messages and meanings to their lyrics.  Today, the messages of sex, money, guns, clothes, cars, and dope are highlighted.  It is as if you need these things in order to be happy.  Very materialistic.  This is what young black people aspire to have.  Big cars and money.  It seems as if it is an American dream.  It is sad because when these lacs', and spinners are acquired, the young black driver is still just a N' in a coop like my boy Kanye said.  It is true. It is so cliche'.  A posting above speaks on what blacks learn as they grow.  We are taught to get a job and go to work. Rarely is it go to work and get a business.  It may be spoken of, but it is not instilled.  Young white kids are raised in business. They learn how to be business oriented from the jump. If I am incorrect please correct me.  As I already know the broken record of opposition.  This is not a pity post, it is a real post.  So please save the rants for another posting.... Back to the scenario... Rappers in HipHop may not know nothing because they have had nothing, or they only sell what sells records from execs, or they are telling it like it is on the other side of the spectrum.  Not every black person is from the "Ghetto" or was raised in extreme poverty.  The output depends on the individual.  If this person lives a *** it lifestyle, they will probably gravitate to rappers like Zero.  Every rapper appeals to someone out there.  Different walks of life.  I do feel like the young'ins coming up who take it too seriously are simply misguided.  Mabye their parents arent active to distinguish entertainment and what is real for their childs lifestyle.  What pisses me off is how HipHop is portyaed as a huge problem in the whole world.  Look at all these businessmen and women who have cheated their way into money and politics. I wonder what type of music they listened to coming up?  Can we put a finger on that and understand why it is not what you know, but who you know?  Not to take away from the issue surrounding HipHop, but let's keep it real. Media has this all on lock. Building up controversy between rappers for record sells.  Seems like all rappers are violent.  Truth is, when under pressure, they probably wouldnt bust a grape! Well mabye T.I ( I know I will get sent to the office for that one!)  Whats the differnce between going to jail for a rapper and a rockstar going to rehab?  They are both *8*ing up and will be institutionalized!  After a while, its like whatever.... Do some drugs, go to rehab.... sell some drugs, go to jail.... Can anyone feel me?  It becomes a lifestyle.          



  
    06-27-2008, 1:23 PM
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Re: When did we start letting HIP HOP raise our kids?!

Great points made here.. Hip-Hop was being blames in the 90'd with gangsta rap when the people made it seem exciitng to kill and to be violent and now the same but not exactly viwed Since George Bu*73* our president (who I want to see placedi n moving traffic blind folded) has ruined the country the parents the guardians are working they have no time to supervise the child let alone raise it (some do and praises go to thsoe who old school adn raise your babies) they are off busy busy trying make ends meetand keep money to survive and live lavish or close to it they allow media to raise their children look back to hte 70's *8*adelics wore diapers you didnt see Grown men wearing diapers no matter how *8*Y it was its a mind thing its the weakness of our children (i say our it take a Village to raise a child some might know some things that others do not) and I say that they are weak becasue they are the gullible that can fix any electronic work any website but they cant survive no tools we have to prepare our children for the real world ... I watched videos and things growing up and it only inspired me to want to go to college A Different World I couldnt wait and Teen SUmmit issues being discussed I wasnt alone if I was going through something The Center all the information I needed as a young person trying to survive etc this is being replaced with garbage and laughter goofy and cornball stuff that doesnt make any sense keep us lost so we dont know whats going on and I refuse that I wont except it and niether should any of us..Hip-HOp is a genre of music strongly listened to in the commnity of color but Hip-HOp cant hug, cant scold, cant council directly to the child Hip-HOp could guide with positive lyrics and so could rock and etc but seriously blacme BU*73* for the country being like it is and parents have no choice but to allow their babie to be media raised...

Thats one reason or blame no one and stop pointing fingers and show the kids the right way 30 years or so 20 some years they are going to run the countr dont we want them well equipped for this harsh  world?


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