That doesn't make sense. I don't have to mistreat you but, I sure don't have to agree with or condone your lifestyle. The pastor's job is to preach God's word and tell the truth using the Bible as his guide. I don't know of a scripture that says that eating shrimp is an abomination but, I can tell you of several scriptures where it talks about how God disapproves of homosexuality. I may meet people who choose to live their lives as homosexuals, that doesn't mean Ihave to hate them but, it also doesn't mean that I have to love them. I can be cordial to them and treat them as I would like to be treated but, distance myself because i don't agree with their lifestyle and don't want to be associated with them.

 dyw wrote:That doesn't make sense. I don't have to mistreat you but, I sure don't have to agree with or condone your lifestyle. The pastor's job is to preach God's word and tell the truth using the Bible as his guide. I don't know of a scripture that says that eating shrimp is an abomination but, I can tell you of several scriptures where it talks about how God disapproves of homosexuality. I may meet people who choose to live their lives as homosexuals, that doesn't mean Ihave to hate them but, it also doesn't mean that I have to love them. I can be cordial to them and treat them as I would like to be treated but, distance myself because i don't agree with their lifestyle and don't want to be associated with them.

Its in the bible...old testiment...don't remember where...it says that some animals were put on this planet to clean the planet...thats why you shouldn't eat pork, shrimp, catfish and other things

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 dyw wrote:That doesn't make sense. I don't have to mistreat you but, I sure don't have to agree with or condone your lifestyle. The pastor's job is to preach God's word and tell the truth using the Bible as his guide. I don't know of a scripture that says that eating shrimp is an abomination but, I can tell you of several scriptures where it talks about how God disapproves of homosexuality. I may meet people who choose to live their lives as homosexuals, that doesn't mean Ihave to hate them but, it also doesn't mean that I have to love them. I can be cordial to them and treat them as I would like to be treated but, distance myself because i don't agree with their lifestyle and don't want to be associated with them.

Leviticus 19:18 states you shall love your neighbor.  So, if that neighbor is a gay man, a pedophile, rapist, etc, etc, by your God's words, you shall love him.  He commands it, you obey it. 

 

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 dyw wrote:That doesn't make sense. I don't have to mistreat you but, I sure don't have to agree with or condone your lifestyle. The pastor's job is to preach God's word and tell the truth using the Bible as his guide. I don't know of a scripture that says that eating shrimp is an abomination but, I can tell you of several scriptures where it talks about how God disapproves of homosexuality. I may meet people who choose to live their lives as homosexuals, that doesn't mean Ihave to hate them but, it also doesn't mean that I have to love them. I can be cordial to them and treat them as I would like to be treated but, distance myself because i don't agree with their lifestyle and don't want to be associated with them.

Leviticus 19:18 states you shall love your neighbor.  So, if that neighbor is a gay man, a pedophile, rapist, etc, etc, by your God's words, you shall love him.  He commands it, you obey it. 

 

 

^ you can love the person in a way like you dont wish no harm on them, but not love they sins. God wouldnt say He hated those things if it was okay. I try not be judgemental on gays and whatnot, but it is wrong and they have to know that.

Bottom line is being gay isn't a sin.... It isn't a choice... It isn't about sex. Even as I was watchin meet the faith(for the second time) the rev could not even properly explain why he thought it was a sin... Why?... Because there is no real explaination. People want to pick and choose how to interpred the bible... Quite sad actually... And quite idiotic to feel one wud want to choose something that brings them so much hurt from other people and at times from their own family.

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 steshasweetie wrote:Bottom line is being gay isn't a sin.... It isn't a choice... It isn't about sex.

 

 

This cant be real. Homosexuality is a sin. Clearly it states that in the Bible. God destroyed a whole city because of what they were practicing. It has everything to do with sex and choices. Men having sex with men is not natural at all, no matter what why you look at it. A man's anatomy is not even designed to handle penetration. Men need artificial lubricants just to make it comfortable. Men in men cant produce human life either. Only a man and woman can do that. Its wrong period.

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 Honey_Cinnamon wrote:

 steshasweetie wrote:Bottom line is being gay isn't a sin.... It isn't a choice... It isn't about sex.

 

 

This cant be real. Homosexuality is a sin. Clearly it states that in the Bible. God destroyed a whole city because of what they were practicing. It has everything to do with sex and choices. Men having sex with men is not natural at all, no matter what why you look at it. A man's anatomy is not even designed to handle penetration. Men need artificial lubricants just to make it comfortable. Men in men cant produce human life either. Only a man and woman can do that. Its wrong period.

If that's the case, you must certainly question whether or not God exists based on this statement alone. 

If God is the creator and all knowing, he most certainly knew these people would be gay.  Why create a gay man/woman and you know they're going to be gay, you know this, you're God and you see all, then go and say, "Oh, homosexuality is a sin"? 

You contradict yourself to the fullest. 

God can't do that.  If you're perfect, you make no mistakes. 

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I don't see where you got questioning whether God exists from my statement. God gave man free will. Man brought on his own demise by disobedience. God gave man free will for His own reasons. He gave man instructions, and man disobeyed. The wages of sin is death. So now homosexuality is dealing with the AIDS crisis.

Either way, I believe in God. I don't debate religion. If one is in doubt about God, you will have to find the answers yourself. I believe. Even with out faith, you can biologically see that two men can not naturally produce life, nor is a man designed to receive another erection inside of him. So you have to admit to that whether or not you believe in God or not.

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We were created free moral agents. you have a choice to do  good or evil.

Its amazing how people accept certain sins and condemn others for theirs. Sin is sin. Are we debating whether or not homosexuality is a sin or are we arguing about loving and accepting those that are different?

Jesus message was always LOVE. But he also came to earth and died so that people would repent their sins, accept him and have eternal life. John 3:16-17. Yes, we shouldn't judge others. We should love them, but at the same time keep it real, just like we would if they murdered people, molested kids or did drugs. They aren't born that way. No one is born a junky, a murderer, child molester, thief, etc, so how can anyone be born gay/lesbian? God never created anyone gay.

The entire chapter of I Corinthians 11 clearly addresses this topic. So does Romans 10:9, Romans 8:1-15 and Romans 1:24-32. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.

Yes God is all knowing and a loving God. He loved us so much that he sent his only Son to save the world. But he gave us a choice to believe or not, to be saved or not. He's not forcing himself on us. Its on us to accept the Lord and live right. Period. We all have sinned. And when we sin and like it, we don't want to hear the truth. We feel judged because deep down we know we are wrong.

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I don't see where you got questioning whether God exists from my statement. God gave man free will. Man brought on his own demise by disobedience. God gave man free will for His own reasons. He gave man instructions, and man disobeyed. The wages of sin is death. So now homosexuality is dealing with the AIDS crisis.

Either way, I believe in God. I don't debate religion. If one is in doubt about God, you will have to find the answers yourself. I believe. Even with out faith, you can biologically see that two men can not naturally produce life, nor is a man designed to receive another erection inside of him. So you have to admit to that whether or not you believe in God or not.

Free will can't exist if God is supposedly real.  You can't have a predetermined world, then want people to believe they have the power to choose their own fate, when you know the outcome of EVERYTHING.  I mean, if one can't see the contradiction in that, I'd be more than happy to lend my glasses as an aide. 

If God is real, then he created everyone to be a robot.  If you, or anyone else truly believe you have free will over your life, then you cancel out god. 

Yeah, you're right, two men can't reproduce, but who are you to say another man's body isn't designed to have a male erection inside of it?  Where are you getting this from?  The bible?  Reproduction argument aside, where? 

My erection is made for a woman, but that's ME.  No one can say that another man's erection isn't made for another man if they aren't that person. 

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 Onyx_Queen wrote: TheAgnosticAHole wrote:

 dyw wrote:That doesn't make sense. I don't have to mistreat you but, I sure don't have to agree with or condone your lifestyle. The pastor's job is to preach God's word and tell the truth using the Bible as his guide. I don't know of a scripture that says that eating shrimp is an abomination but, I can tell you of several scriptures where it talks about how God disapproves of homosexuality. I may meet people who choose to live their lives as homosexuals, that doesn't mean Ihave to hate them but, it also doesn't mean that I have to love them. I can be cordial to them and treat them as I would like to be treated but, distance myself because i don't agree with their lifestyle and don't want to be associated with them.

Leviticus 19:18 states you shall love your neighbor.  So, if that neighbor is a gay man, a pedophile, rapist, etc, etc, by your God's words, you shall love him.  He commands it, you obey it. 

 

 

^ you can love the person in a way like you dont wish no harm on them, but not love they sins. God wouldnt say He hated those things if it was okay. I try not be judgemental on gays and whatnot, but it is wrong and they have to know that.

So you're no better than the gay man, the pedophile, rapist, etc etc, you "try" not to judge, correct? 

You'll always be wrong because you can't not judge.  It's human nature. 

I guess god hates everyone then........

 

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Honey cin: number one he destroyed that city because of the rape of the angels. Also it was never clear if all of the angels were men or not. You shud read that scripture instead of jus listening to what pastors want you to believe. Also you contradicted yourself... Gays cannot choose to be gay.... Therefore why would god create them jus to destroy them? Wanna talk about unnatural? Its not natural for a man to date a woman KNOWING HE LIKES MEN. And aids? The fastest growing rate in aids are HETEROsexual black males... So explain that? Either way I don't believe being gay is a sin. Nowhere in the bible does it say it is.

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 Honey_Cinnamon wrote:

I don't see where you got questioning whether God exists from my statement. God gave man free will. Man brought on his own demise by disobedience. God gave man free will for His own reasons. He gave man instructions, and man disobeyed. The wages of sin is death. So now homosexuality is dealing with the AIDS crisis.

Either way, I believe in God. I don't debate religion. If one is in doubt about God, you will have to find the answers yourself. I believe. Even with out faith, you can biologically see that two men can not naturally produce life, nor is a man designed to receive another erection inside of him. So you have to admit to that whether or not you believe in God or not.

 

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 steshasweetie wrote:Honey cin: number one he destroyed that city because of the rape of the angels. Also it was never clear if all of the angels were men or not. You shud read that scripture instead of jus listening to what pastors want you to believe. Also you contradicted yourself... Gays cannot choose to be gay.... Therefore why would god create them jus to destroy them? Wanna talk about unnatural? Its not natural for a man to date a woman KNOWING HE LIKES MEN. And aids? The fastest growing rate in aids are HETEROsexual black males... So explain that? Either way I don't believe being gay is a sin. Nowhere in the bible does it say it is.

Stesha dear...some people use the "PEOPLE CHOOSE TO BE GAY" excuse to keep their belief that god makes perfect beings. 

I keep asking...If people choose to be gay then we choose to be straight.  I don't or I can honestly say that I have never had a choice to who i was gonna go out with.  With me it was ALWAYS girls.  Since I was 4!

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