AsadAbdurRahman wrote:Stesha: Fisrt of all, bear witness that I anwered your boys questions (above). Thus, dispelling the myth that these questions cannot be anwered. Now allow me to remind you that Allah has already passed Judgement on homosexuality, and I am in no position to remain silent on His Judgement. Even if I am accused of being the judge, it is based on God's Judgement. Now, a homosexual asexual is an oxymoron. If a man is attracted to a man, without action, it is a sign of a disease in his heart (reasoning). He should therefore clean his heart, and bring his self into complience with God's Law. The same as if I wanted to steal. I may be tempted, but I may chose to refrain from acting upon that desire. If I develop Divine Awareness, and seek to please my Lord, then I will develop the ability to perge my self of such a desire. If I allow it to remain in me, it grows like a virus placed in a culture. Its called reasoning. I have to think about what pleases Allah, and weigh it against what pleases my low desires. If i acheive rightousness, I will desire what pleases Allah. If I allow the disease of immorality to cultivate in me, I will seek to justify my wrong actions, and seek to hide from God's Judgement, so long as life is in me. Thus I would attempt find peace in Atheism, though the thought of death (awakening to reality) would naw at my soul and disturb my false vision of peace. Death is the enemy of the immoral. Common sense tells me that I should prepare for death, by preparing to meet my Creator. I do not want to stand before my Creator, with the stolen property of another in my hand. Nor should any one want to stand in front of their Creator, with wicked thoughts on their mind. Homosexual asexual means you desire that which god has forbid. Now you do the knowledge from there.

Intersex people (which you mistakingly refer to as hermaphrodites) cannot get pregnant nor can they impregnate a woman. Thus by your own definition, they neither male nor female. So you screwed that up.

As for the rest of it, it's irrelevant as there is no god, heaven, hell, etc. That is why it needs not be challenged. It fails on it's own.

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Aztec- Prove that hermaphodites cannot function as either male or female, before you falsely glorify your self. What medical proof do you have? As for you not believing in God, that's your business. As for you not being able to challenge my explainations, I get the same dumbfounded replies from orgainicone as well. You both have 2 things in common: 1. Blunt statements without proof to back your claims (somehow you both think that your giving valid info) 2. Denial when your challeges are accepted you theories are proved false. In Islam its called Kufr (covering up).

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بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمـَنِ الرَّحِيمِ

الْحَمْدُ للّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ

There is no god except Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger

DID U GET THE MEMO?

ORGANICONE & OLOUNWA IS THE SAME MO FO'S.

@ asad: Aztec is actually right. Intersex people or "hermaphrodites" are not male nor female they are both. Copy and paste this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

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Think again! You can read from one source, or research the topic. When you research, you can challenge. Now, wikipedia can give their interpreation. They can call it non-male/non-female, but MEDICAL FACTS may give you insight and direct you towards the Truth of the matter. So I am offering a link to a Hemorphadite whos Medical records show that he developed as a male, unable to get pregnant, etc. This was documented in HIS puberty. He did not develop INTERNAL workable female organs. If he were a female, it would have been the other way around. So how would wikipedia explain this? You do the knowledge. http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/BornHermaphrodite/

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الْحَمْدُ للّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ

There is no god except Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger

 AsadAbdurRahman wrote:Aztec- Prove that hermaphodites cannot function as either male or female, before you falsely glorify your self. What medical proof do you have? As for you not believing in God, that's your business. As for you not being able to challenge my explainations, I get the same dumbfounded replies from orgainicone as well. You both have 2 things in common: 1. Blunt statements without proof to back your claims (somehow you both think that your giving valid info) 2. Denial when your challeges are accepted you theories are proved false. In Islam its called Kufr (covering up).

Why should I have to do the basic educating that your medical school didn't do? Stesha posted the wikipedia link. I suggest you start there for your proof. If intersex people could function as male or female, they wouldn't call them intersex. Tada!

I've worked with transsexual, transgender, and intersex people for years as a volunteer. I don't think i'm giving valid info. I KNOW i'm giving valid info.

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 AsadAbdurRahman wrote:Think again! You can read from one source, or research the topic. When you research, you can challenge. Now, wikipedia can give their interpreation. They can call it non-male/non-female, but MEDICAL FACTS may give you insight and direct you towards the Truth of the matter. So I am offering a link to a Hemorphadite whos Medical records show that he developed as a male, unable to get pregnant, etc. This was documented in HIS puberty. He did not develop INTERNAL workable female organs. If he were a female, it would have been the other way around. So how would wikipedia explain this? You do the knowledge. http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/BornHermaphrodite/

 

By your own definition (If they can get a woman pregnant, they are male.), he is not a male.

 

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Exactly aztec I was going to mention that! Asad by your own definition he is still not male. He cannot inpregnate a woman.... There is no way around the fact that intersex people are not exclusivly male or female. You can just make up your own definitions. Al you did was show a story of an intersex person who hormones were those more of a man.... That does not make him exclusivly a male in any case.

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Great points, Stesha and Aztec! Sorry ASAD but we got you.

I don't know how he can ask for proof. The proof is in the word intersex. The world literally means "between sexes". If you're between sexes, you cannot be one or the other. Even if you change your appearance, receive hormone therapy, and live your life as one sex or the other, your intersex status remains unchanged, because you cannot change your genetics.

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Because some people are sp set in what they want to be truth you can have all the proof in the world and it wouldn't even matter to them. He asked for proof and sources as you said aztec the proof is not only in the word I've posted a link that used many sources and research to credit themselves along with a bibliography they have on their web page.... So what more does he want I don't kno.

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Make sure you check out this weeks episode.

Now look at this.....This thread is over 25 pages but with only 11,000 views.

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I believe they do. I dont understand how pastors can preach about homosexuality when eating shrimp is abomination also. I say if you dont want it don't be concerned, its like taking interest in a job u know u don't want. A pastor who is against gays are not real pastors because u should love everyone dont just love straight people. Be fair wit it.

Take care everybody, much love, and try to only focus on your interest and not those who are different.

 

I don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle.. that means supposed "bisexuals" as well. In my opinion, if you sleep with someone of your same sex regardless if you sleep with someone of a different sex, you are homosexual, not bisexual. Anyway, the Bible says that homosexuals would not inherit God's kingdom, just like fornicators, adulterers, etc. So, really homosexuality is not any worse than a man and a woman sleeping together without marriage. Although the Bible does call it unnatural in God's sight. I don't feel that the church is hard on homosexuals. It is only trying to teach what the Bible states. They shouldn't sugar coat it to spare someone's feelings. The truth will set you free.