11-25-2007, 1:03 AM
Tankard
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
This is why I don't really follow religion, too much division. I never seen a religion that wasn’t talking about my religion this, you’re religion that. Anytime I see people arguing about religion, I know those people are caught up. If a person cared about helping others, you would help them regardless of their personal beliefs. My father studied with the Jehovah Witnesses and they stopped coming around when he refused to join their religion. I guess their religion was more important then sharing the good news. Religion is the reason why so many people don't have a relationship with GOD. Too much self.
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11-25-2007, 1:19 AM
AztecRed
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
The black community harms itself through stupidity, regardless of whether that stupidity comes from a church, mosque, or crack house.
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11-25-2007, 1:40 AM
Tankard
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
Education is one of the main reasons why the black community is hurting. You can’t keep an educated person down or those who have the drive to wanna learn. That is what separate us from our ancestors. We need to get rid of the drugs 1st and foremost. People cannot operate until all the drugs is pushed out the community.
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11-25-2007, 7:51 AM
Truewisdom2
Joined on 07-10-2007
Michigan
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Study and Read, It Will Set You Free
mssexycarmel wrote:
1. Since Christians are so bad, who killed Malcolm X?
Federal agents killed Malcolm X. The FBI was following Malcolm everywhere he went. The Nation of Islam was riddled with informants and agents posing as believers. Google search "COINTELPRO" and see how the government had a program in place specifically to monitor and destroy any groups of indigenous people who were organizing and planning to go free.
When the rift started between Malcolm and Elijah, that's when they seized the opportunity to kill him. Basically killing two birds with one stone. Kill Malcolm and blame it on Elijah so our people would turn a blind ear to the life giving teachings that would save them.
People wrongly accuse The Hon. Elijah Muhammad for his death, but the fact remains that no one has ever brought evidence and proved that. It was a ignorant rumor that was started purposefully.
If Warner Brothers (A Jewish owned movie company) decided to produce a movie about Malcolm X a man that they hated and wanted dead, of course they will put a spin on it to put the blame on the wrong person/people. The media is very manipulative and wicked. Everything you see on t.v. is not real.
3. Christianity is Christianity. What does color have to do with anything? You either believe Jesus was your savior or you don't. There will always be humans destorting the truth. Liars and perpetrators and false prophets come in all races, not just Black.
I feel what your saying and it would be nice of people all over the world felt that way. But unfortunately race is EVERYTHING when it comes down to white folks. If race isnt a factor and people would believe in Jesus regardless, why did Caucasians feel the need to paint him white in the first place? Why couldnt he just be faceless and colorless through out history?
You have to look at the wicked deception behind that. That is why the Black Church is being compared to a crack house. It sounds harsh, but when you look at the reality of it, it tricks and brainwashes original people into believing that being white systematically connects you with the divinity of Jesus. Pictures of white Jesus' flood the walls of Black churches and it is a tool to help keep us slaves to them.
We should know in 2007 that Jesus was and is a Black man. Not a spirit, but a real live man. The church tells Christians not to question anything and to only go by what your pastor says. That is IGNORANCE. Everyone should study independently. Most of what is in the Bible isnt even talked about. I think I probably know the Bible better than the majority of people who claim to be Christian.
And for the record ma'am Muslims do be live in Jesus. We believe in ALL the Prophets sent by Allah. Not just Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Some people say I start drama, I say I finish it.
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11-25-2007, 8:08 AM
Truewisdom2
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
emmettmays wrote:I GREW UP IN THE CHURCH BUT IT WAS FORCED UPON ME BY MY GRANDMA .
That's pretty much how we all got it. It was simply passed down to us and it originates back to slavery. I was raised up as a Baptist, but when I was 17 I went to one Mosque meeting and converted the same day. I knew that what was said in the church didnt add up and a Minister spoke that day and broke up all those lies within 2 hours and I knew I was on the right track.
It was a religion made by Caucasians. No one really wants to reject it even when they are faced with the truth because they some how feel like they are disrespecting their family and Jesus by seeking the truth. The truth has to be told and we must know it in order to be free. That is what Jesus was warning us of 2,ooo yrs. ago. "Ye shall know they truth and the truth shall set you free."
THROUGHOUT MY WHOLE LIFE CHRISTIANS HAVE CAUSED ME NOTHIN BUT GRIEF AND PAIN MOST OF THEM LOOK DOWN ON *6*S LIKE ME
Kudos to that. So-called Christians are very judgemental. They claim to love everybody, but are the first ones to say over and over how much they hate Islam and Muslims. What happened to the brotherly love Jesus said to have for each other? These people aint nothing but lip-professors. They talk religion with their mouths, but their hands do something totally opposite.
PARENTS ARE CHEATING THEIR KIDS OUT OF HAVING THEY OWN BELIEFS BUT ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES THAT HOW BLACK PEOPLE BECAME CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY SLAVE MASTERS WERE CHRISTIANS
Kudos to the 5th power!
Mathematics wont allow our children to believe in foolishness any more. Hell is supposed to be in the Earth's center and 10 times hotter than the Sun (as what they tell us in the church).
But the Earth is 93,000,000 miles away from the sun. The diameter of the Earth is 7,926 miles. So the center of it would be 3,963 miles away from us at any given time. On a hot day the sun can burn up your skin from millions of miles aways, but yet this so-called hell is roughly 4,000 miles away and 10 times hotter than the Sun and it doesn't even effect us?
That's foolishness and non-sense. We study Supreme Wisdom. A person who applies actual facts to their life can not be fooled. We dont believe in anything foolish. Spirits, mysteries, and unexplained phenomenon is not apart of The Nation of Islam's foundation. We are not slaves to the white man's religion any more. That is why we are all suffering and dying in droves because we are not being guided right. If our people were truly being guided right, you would not see the death you see in our community on a daily, even hourly basis.
Some people say I start drama, I say I finish it.
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11-25-2007, 8:22 AM
olounwa
Joined on 10-17-2005
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
Re: Shadiq's mom 's comment . Unlike the NOI I'm not on BET to recruit new members to any cult . And unlike any of them i am on here TO GIVE MY OWN OPINION NOT ANYONE ELSE'S.! You do NOT need to belong to a club , a church , a mosque , and for americans most of whom dont realise that there are other nations on this planet besides their OWN , fraternities,to have an opinion on any subject matter. POPULARITY Doesnt come into the TRUTH. If thats what i wanted, i know what buttons to push .! Lol lol lol
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11-25-2007, 8:48 AM
olounwa
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
I REST MY CASE HAVING NOW READ TRUE'S OPPORTUNISTIC BIT OF FLUFF !. Fear is the tool of choice for this group of americans who prey on the weakness within their OWN community. No wonder THEY ARE NOT WELCOME IN THE UK AND HAD TO RESORT TO THE SAME WHITE MAN'S COURT TO ALLOW THEM TO PEDDLE THEIR HATE FILLED IGNORANCE TO A WIDER BLACK AUDIENCE. ! What have they done to stop killing within the black community in america .? They have done the SAME as the black church , NOTHING! . Absolute power corrupts .!
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11-25-2007, 9:07 AM
Truewisdom2
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
@ Olounwa:
I see you will not stop following me around. As soon as I logged in this morning, you are right there clinging on to my every word. You are obsessed to the fulliest!
You ever heard the phrase, If your not apart of the solution, your a part of the problem?
If you can do better, go out and do it YOURSELF. We know that Black America is messed up. If you had been 400 yrs. under white American supremacist, you would be the same way. Where was Africa at to save us? Africa didnt start a war when they seen how we had been done, so please kill the noise.
Allah came Himself to raise us up out the ignorance and decay. Nobody offered a helping hand. Where is the Christian brotherly love at? We dont need finger pointing, we need assistance. If the Nation Of Islam is not what you would like, I suggest you get up off your high horse and go out and do it better.
Some people say I start drama, I say I finish it.
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11-25-2007, 10:02 AM
olounwa
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
SHUT THE FKK UP TRUE CHICKEN HEAD !. All you ever do on here is attack and besmear any ONE who isn't kissing your so called leaders backside.!thats when you arent doing your "monica" on fa- rr -a -con's dkk.! WE DONT NEED YOUR SCABBY RACE -HATE TRIPE POLLUTING AN ALREADY DAMAGED BLACK COMMUNITY WHERE THE YOUTH DO NOTHING BUT FOLLOW MORONS KILLING AND DESTROYING WITHIN THEMSELVES in THE UK. Keep your , evil, ugly thinking TO YOUR SELVES.! You are NOT pro black !. You are pro farra con .!NASTY
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11-25-2007, 6:25 PM
Truewisdom2
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
^^^
Where are yor manners? That doesn't sound like a true Christian at all. You are all smoke and mirrors. Your not Black, your white. Your white and angry because you know Farrakhan is after your lies and deceit and our people are waking up to the truth.
Like I said if your not a part of the solution, your part of the problem. You lip-profess Christianity, but your the biggest hater here. If you feel like The Nation of Islam is not the answer to Black America's problem, then YOU must have the answers. What is it? Enlighten us so we will know. Your just a fraud who talks to here yourself talk.
If Minister Farrakhan and The Nation of Islam is no real threat to you and we are nothing, why do you feel so threatened by us? Why do you have to come in every thread you see my name or any Muslim to say ignorant remarks and call childish names? The truth of the matter is you do feel threatened and you are afraid.
Nobody wants to hear your whining and complaining everyday. Get over it, we heard you the first 2,000 times. Can't you talk about anything else or are you only concerned with Islam? Your a fraud and you know it.
You got ran off of Black America Voices when they discovered you were a huge troll, not your on BET every waking moments yelling and causing the same kind of trouble. Didn't the mod's say to get lost? Take a hint HoHoHotep. Wasnt that your other name on Black America Web?
You sure are interested in Black Americans to say you hate us so much you stalker.
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/sayitloud/kane510?view=Forum&message_id=299707
Some people say I start drama, I say I finish it.
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11-25-2007, 11:23 PM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
Tankark,the Jehovah Witnesses seperate themselves from other religions,because they also believe that they are the one true religion. The Good news of Jesus Christ should never seperate any believer in Christ. It is when a religion removes Christ out of the system , its seperates others. When the teaching of Christ is not the foundational teaching of any church or group, that group is invalid.
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11-25-2007, 11:37 PM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
Asad, Slow your roll! You are going on with these tiread on all the websites. Spread the Love of Christ. Christ came to redeem sinful man by His Death ,Blood and resurrection. A changed heart is the key to a CHANGED lifestyle. You need to be BORN-Again,and the koran does not offer new life in Christ. Allah will not hear you, if you reject the atonement Of Jesus Christ. Christ taught us to Love God(allah) and our neighbor. You are sprouting hatred like those crack heads you mention. Seek the Lord while He is near. Jesus is the answer for the world.
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11-26-2007, 2:33 AM
shadiqs_mom
Joined on 10-28-2007
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
ALL THIS QUOTE UN QUOTE "FOOLISHNESS" AND "WHITE MAN" RELIGIONS THIS AND THAT AND U GOING IN2 A MOSQUE AT 17...ALL OF THAT SOUNDS LIKE A ARMY RECRUITE MENT TO ME...NONE OF IT SOUNDS LIKE A SPRITUAL JOURNEY BK TO CHRIST IN THE LEAST BIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....A RECRUIT MENT TO HATE THE "WHITE MAN"...AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT GOD..AS IF HE DIDN'T CREATE THE "WHITE MAN" AS WELL....U SOUND LIKE A FOOL..."TRUE"...I CAN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND WHEN SO MUCH OF ISLAM IS BASED ON CHRISTIANITY AS WELL AS JUDISAM....SOOOOOO MUCH OF IT....BUT YET WE ARE LIARS AD WHAT WE BELIEVE IN SEEMS TO COCO CRAZY.....U SAYING THAT ISLAM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN "ANYTHING FOOLLISH"...IN REFERENCE TO SPIRITS AND
UNEXPLAINED PHENOMENOM.....WHAT IS THE SOUL?...IS THE SOUL NOT A SPIRIT THAT DWELLS IN YOU....FOR WE ARE A SPIRIT WITHIN A BODY THAT CANNOT BE SEEN....WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE THEN....THE BODY DIES....THE BONES STAY IN THE GROWND AND THE SPRIT THE SOUL GOES WITH THE LORD. AGAIN....ISLAM IS NOT OF FAITH BUT OF GOING AROUND TRYING TO BECOME AN ARMY...NOT A SPRITUAL ONENESS WITH THE ALMIGHTY. WHICH IS WHY GOD DECIEDED TO MAKE THE WORD FLESH. THIS IS NOT SOME KIND OF "ARMY" TO PROMOTE HATRED OR DISLIKE OF OTHER'S SUCH AS JEWS AND WHITES....BUT ITS FUNNY THOUGH.....=[
GOD didn't promised days without pain, laughter without sorrow or sun without rain. But, GOD did promise strength for the day, comfort for the tears and a light for the way
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11-26-2007, 6:17 AM
Truewisdom2
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
shadiqs_mom:
I'm sure you've read my other post because you always seem to come behind me with a blind opinion about religion. Your thoughts really dont have any substance because you do not study your Bible and you very plainly show you have never studied the foundation of any other monotheistic religions.
You are not up to par to really engage in intelligent dialogue with people who are more versed than you. In the PROOF that I posted about the so-called place "hell", it can not be disputed. It is mathematically impossible for a place like that to exist in the middle of the Earth. You can take it, or leave it alone.
I will tell YOU just like I told all of the rest, PROOF & FACTS is what I want and what is necessary in modern times. Only a fool would want to walk around believing in fairy tales when the masses of people all around the world and suffering and dying because of their blindness. So it may sound foolish to you personally, but that does not make it a lie. Everything I said was the truth. You may not like it or want to hear it but you can not PROVE it to be wrong.
There is no "army recruiting" going on here. I dont need any one to follow me or convert. Your soul is your responsibility. My only requirement is to tell the truth. Souls are real and they do exist. But a soul has to be housed in a material body. It cant interact with the material world without being within flesh. When a body expires, the material is left and the soul/spirit returns back to God. The spirit doesn't start dwelling and interacting in the environment because that is not it's purpose.
So whatever you dont agree with, PROVE IT WRONG. I will pay you $1,000,000 to find any proof that such a hell exist and that any spirits are dwelling around in a material world. Ghosts are not real. That is spookism and spook religion. That's sounds foolish and unrealistic to me.
Some people say I start drama, I say I finish it.
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11-26-2007, 10:58 AM
swtearl
Joined on 02-26-2007
St Louis
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
any religion that preach, teach, or practice HATE is not a religion at all...its CULT!!!
where the KOOL people hang out....
http://ebonycity.heavenforum.com/index.htm
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