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    03-16-2007, 5:54 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

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I agree with a lot of what you’ve said. However, although you don’t agree it does exist (localization of education). Lol, as for there being no such thing as European education would be like saying that there is no such thing as European history yet I understand what you are conveying but tell them that. Knowledge is knowledge but knowledge is also sorrow. Yes the light of truth is blinding. You are correct again when you ask “Why be forced to choose between Islam and Christianity?” you shouldn’t be limited to any choice but this is how some people move thru life through stages. I like your example of exchanging shackles for another set of shackles. Well we do it all the time Democrat and Republican (The wolf and the fox) both are K-9. To get rid of it would mean one would have to up root it, destroy it and be prepared for war (bloodshed).

I am addressing or talk to the process, the human process of a conquered people, made a Frankenstein. Frankenstein can not just come to the arrival of self he has to be shown someone must hold his/her hand.

Just for the record I don’t trust any religion and remember IF I had to choose and like I said IF it would be Islam not Christianity mainly cause I’ve been there and done that. Because it exist more people should pass thru Islam to better understand all that they don’t but they should not remain there. I say this only to better able us to communicate with the world.

In short I would like to see all religions of the world leave this earth but the reality of life will not let it happen. People need something to worship (sad it is) something to hold to make them feel secure. Take away religion and they will replace it with Classism. Take away classism and they will replace it with culture and so on. Something will alway be of construct to divide the masses. One has to approach the issue from this point of reality.

Check this out I love Martin Luther King but he was a dreamer he dreamed opposed to dealing with reality of his day. Nonetheless, he made the ultimate sacrifice and he had the courage of his convictions. Martin addressed the dream of the masses. Many of us are dreamers and talk about “One Day” or “What it should be” oppose to “What it is and where we are at”. That is why I held Malcolm X so close. He was reality he forced you to see it just as it is no matter if you liked it or not. He let the chips fall where the may. This is what the kids in the street call “Real Talk”.

So in closing I agree with you but I believe in dealing with what it is (reality) rather than what it should be (to dream).

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    03-28-2007, 5:47 PM
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Angry [:@] Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

All of yall are wack! Jesus died for you me and the whole world. So instead of yall  trying to prove a point knowing good and well yall would not! say this to your pastor or your church going grandmother. Alot of people know of him, and they think they know alot about him, but to know him is to serve him.

  
    04-04-2007, 5:30 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

Malcolm X and Martin Luther King died for you and the world as well. In fact without the pressure Malcolm applied you would not enjoy the little rights you have now. My pastor would not even have a clue and I would not even go there with my grandmother due to the information gap alone.

 

I serve no man. Please let me be wack in peace.

 

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    04-15-2007, 6:34 AM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

The solution to religion divisions is simple. Love one another. Do good to those who are your enemies. Love your enemies as GOD has loved you.

If you say you only love your brothers and not any one else then you are a false prophet. A wolf in sheeps closing, A deceiver of many a snake or devil. Wisdom says this is true. The tongue is an uncontrolable evil. The same mouth you bless and pray with you also curse with.

 

 

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    04-15-2007, 6:45 AM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
You cannot love everyone; it is ridiculous to think you can. If you love everyone and everything you lose your natural powers of selection and wind up being a pretty poor judge of character and quality. If anything is used too freely it loses its true meaning. Therefore, you should love strongly and completely those who deserve your love, but never turn the other cheek to your enemy. The moment you love your enemy is the moment they will cease the opportunity to slit your throat. That's why they are called an enemy and not a friend.
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    04-15-2007, 10:34 PM
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Lightning [li] Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

What do you mean you cannot love one another?. This the doctrine that followers of JESUS CHIRST the son of the living God follows. If some one strikes you on another cheek turn and strike the other one. We believe in a God of compassion, mercy,and peace. We as christians don't worry about a person striking us as long as it is in the will of the Lord. Amen

 

John 6:51 " I am the living bread which came from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever, and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."


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    04-16-2007, 1:00 AM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
 lightingstorm wrote:

What do you mean you cannot love one another?. This the doctrine that followers of JESUS CHIRST the son of the living God follows. If some one strikes you on another cheek turn and strike the other one. We believe in a God of compassion, mercy,and peace. We as christians don't worry about a person striking us as long as it is in the will of the Lord. Amen

 

John 6:51 " I am the living bread which came from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever, and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."

Loving your enemy is definitely the doctrine of the followers of Jesus Christ. And people who follow that doctrine often end up just like Jesus: Dead at the hands of the very enemy they were supposed to love. Personally, I don't like being dead, nor do I like being struck.

Love is valuable and should be reserved for those who truly deserve it. Loving my enemies would be cheating those who truly deserve my love. Giving away love to those who don't deserve it only lowers the value of love.


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    04-24-2007, 3:26 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
I'm not familiar with the world's oldest step pyramid.  But I am really into history and especially the origins of man.  There are pyramids all over the Earth.  They are finding them everywhere.  They don't tell us about them because then they would have to rewrite history and most people couldn't handle that.  It 's just like religion.  Some people are so brainwashed they couldn't believe any different no matter what.  We have the largest pyramid in the world right here in the USA.  And of course they are finding pyramids of all sizes in the ocean as well.  I think religion was created to lock the mind of the average person and keep people from empowering themselves.  People have been on Earth way longer than they will admit.  And it appears that they were more advanced than us.  They are unearthing skeletal remains whose DNA does not match current day humans.  So to me what is says is that there are other possibilies out here and, most likely, we will have to rewrite our world's history sooner or later.
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    05-15-2007, 2:27 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
NJ - There are pyramids located in the Sudan area that pre-dates the pyramids located in both Northern and Southern Egypt. Only in america is religion to be the opium of the masses. There are also pyramids located underwater right outside of Japan. Check out the book "Stolen Legacy" you will find it very revealing. Also keep in mind that those of European decent have come into rule for about 6 thousand years. During such time our history has been rewritten by them. One should want to know what those people were doing before they came into power some 6 thousand years ago and who showed them how to live before they became

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    05-15-2007, 8:01 PM
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Interesting.  I love history and expanding my mind on what I am being taught in school.
  
    06-15-2007, 11:12 PM
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Beer [B] Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Honestly this thread is wack. Please erase this crap ASAP. I can't understand how this thread continues to be on top every week. Asuaramera what really are you smoking. Strap up some dynamite and do away with yourself and this thread. Muhammad is dead do you really want me to dig up his bones and show them to you. Well do you? Get of that followers band wagon and try to be a leader for once cockroach.
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    06-17-2007, 12:38 AM
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Alot of compelling arguments that should make many think. Here's what I'd like to propose: Religion becomes when practices take form, so then it is inevitable that religion will come. Religious spirits on the other hand is what's damaging. I would submit this: People across the spectrum of faith should come together for a mass prayer meeting and all call on the Supreme Being, the Creator and ask Him who He is and to manifest Himself in whatever way would bring clarity to which way is the Right WAY. That's simple enough, but I figure that most are comfortable with continuing to over-intellectualize the matter of what is and how do you serve as well as who is G O D! That would help them feel more in control and help them remain unchallenged that they CAME UP with the answer. www.thezealofthelordbook.com
  
    06-20-2007, 2:37 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

i think this discussion and the way it turned out just answered your own question as long as so called religous people remain convinced that they religion is some sort of   v.i.p pass to heaven then nations will continue to war. you gave a lot of info based on a historic finding while the other brother decided to debate you from a biblical quranic standpoint. if that happens we will never find a middle ground. such as the the scripture describing a time period in which egypt held hebrew slaves but that point cant be historically proven. somehow we have to find a middle ground

 

i think the answer is simple but we make it hard

 

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    06-24-2007, 6:50 PM
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First, if one does not have faith in Jesus Christ and his resurrection; 2. must decide to submit and obey by faith to His teaching. God will not allow you to understand nor agree with Him nor each other. The power to believe comes only after one submits and obey.
  
    06-27-2007, 12:42 PM
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If where talking about Religion it will not happen because we can't do simple things like speak to one another with out us thinking it's going to be a fight or problem so religion it's got a long way to go.
  
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