I don't have a problem with someone if they are gay, but I'm not sure if I agree with them having the right to marry.  The reason being is, I'd like to know what legal implications it will have for everyone in this country.  I figure there is some reason politicians are thinking this over.  It's just like an article I was reading about equal rights for women.  There are some feminists trying to get some law passed that would make a women totally equal to a man in the eyes of the law.  The article then went on the explain some of the possible consequences that included women being drafted into the army among other things.  Some women may not care about that, but I don't want to worry about being forced to go to fight some war and leave my kids behind because I want to say I am totally equal.  So what I think, is that politicians should diclose to the public all of the possibilities and the reasons behind some of their decisions and oppinions.

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 La_Primadonna wrote:

I APOLOGIZE IF I HURT ANY BODIES FEELINGS, BUT YES I AM AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE. I WAS TAUGHT THAT WASN'T GODS PLAN. I DON'T JUDGE OR DISCRIMINATE.

 

"NO SIN IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER"

***Cosign***shakes head***its a damn shame what this world is coming to***

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I feel like this Why put this on a voting quesiton in the voting booth? I rememer voting against gay marriage because marriage is sacred between woman and man its most natural.. Again people are going to do what they want to .. I was upset when that question came up I didnt want to deal with that question it was most like Im not gay so I say no.. How can you ask someo ne a question about gay marriage if they are straight? I mean really its confusing.

 betmami757 wrote:... I rememer voting against gay marriage because marriage is sacred between woman and man

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 pyt_504 wrote:...GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE..... NOT ADAM AND STEVE.... NOT EVE AND EVELYN!!!!!!

This is not to subcribe to the right or the wrong of the issue, but to ask about these two statement that are synonomous with anti or rather non support of homosexuality.

A. On the "marriage is sacred," I can't honestly see how this statement carries any clout because even amongst Heterosexuals marriage is not sacred, ergo (1) the highest divorce rate ever, (2) divorce and remarriage in opposition to what the Bible states, (3) that high rates of adultery, and (4) the down-low phenom. Again, this is not endorsing hetero or homo, but showing a weakness of this particular rationale.

B. On the "God made Adam and Eve ..., as ministers from T.D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Juanita Bynum, Joyce Meirs, all the way to the Pope have acknowledged through the years, and as practicing Christians who study their Bibles already know, we don't know who God made after he made Adam and Eve because the Bible's Genesis creation story speaks ONLY of God's first creations.

Such is why the moral verses immoral issues are becoming more and more irrelevant in the national dialog. Logically, you just can't have a group of immoral Christian and/or non Christian heterosexuals, who based on their hetero behavior over the years (i.e. high divorce rate, dow-lowism, high child abuse and neglect, etceteras) telling someone else what is or is not immoral. That's serves only to (1) document lip-services Christianity and (2) confirm the existence of hypocricy.

Such is why, if you've noticed, the issue is appearing on more ballots, more states are taking the first step called civil unions, and for even the older generation it is becoming a none issue.

Further, as to gay parenting, well, if two hetero parents can produce a gay child raised in a straight environment and too produce adulterous hetero children and down-low children and female chir'ens who get pregnant before adulthood and male chir'ens who disrespect women, etceteras, it stands to reason the same is exactly the case f two gay parents...that they could raise gay and/or straight children, that they too could grow up to be abuser because the witnessed dad and dad or mom and mom beat and abuse each other, no different that hetero couples do. To me the parenting thing is about give love and guidance to a child who would not otherwise have it. Love is love to a child.

Heterosexuals, by example and ignorance are literally helping homosexuals to adopt and obtain marriage. Didn't know if anyone else noticed that or not.  My parents always taught me that it's not what you say that speaks, it's what you do, and we heterosexuals have been doing a good deal of life and marriage wrong and in opposition of The Bible we 'claim' to have Faith. Reality check is a real motha for ya! Peace and Hairgrease yall.

 

 

 

 

 

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"When you know better you should do better." Maya Angelou.
"And if you choose not to do better, you get what you get...and I don't want to hear about it." Prince Emerald Falcon

EmeraldFalcon wrote:

This is not to subcribe to the right or the wrong of the issue, but to ask about these two statement that are synonomous with anti or rather non support of homosexuality.

A. On the "marriage is sacred," I can't honestly see how this statement carries any clout because even amongst Heterosexuals marriage is not sacred, ergo (1) the highest divorce rate ever, (2) divorce and remarriage in opposition to what the Bible states, (3) that high rates of adultery, and (4) the down-low phenom. Again, this is not endorsing hetero or homo, but showing a weakness of this particular rationale.

I didn’t know this was a popularity contest. If we are to follow (believe) the majority in biblical context, then Sodom and Gomorra should have been spared. Just because one man –Lot- viewed “marriage as sacred,” why create a tale of the destruction of two cities where the majority clearly thought nothing wrong with divorce, adultery, down-low and the up-high phenomenon .

Why? Because, this is not a popularity contest….Never had been and never will be. So the “marriage is sacred,” stills carries clout with an unchanging God  and the “very few” people that he spoke of when it stated that “the way to the Kingdom of heaven is narrow and few be on it.” And yes, There is going to be some very “straight” murder’s and adulators in deep doggy do-do. Again, God like the Marines, is looking for a few good men!  This is not a popularity contest!

Such is why the moral verses immoral issues are becoming more and more irrelevant in the national dialog. Logically, you just can't have a group of immoral Christian and/or non Christian heterosexuals, who based on their hetero behavior over the years (i.e. high divorce rate, dow-lowism, high child abuse and neglect, etceteras) telling someone else what is or is not immoral. That's serves only to (1) document lip-services Christianity and (2) confirm the existence of hypocricy.

The issue appeared on my ballot in Michigan and I and my fellow citizen created a constitutional amendment barring ALL types of these unions. 10 other states followed suit in that same year. Michigan is considered a liberal (blue) state. Among men, This election DOES represent a popularity contest. It was an election. But check this out, Do you think that if humanity was ready to embrace this lifestyle they would have done it hundreds, if not thousands of years prior to this era? Every time a country or a group does collectively endorse this lifestyle they revert back to the traditional standard – why is this? This land that we call America won’t be America for ever. No nation on this Earth has lasted forever. So if every state in the Union endorses this lifestyle, in a God’s eye view, it will only be temporary.

Further, as to gay parenting, well, if two hetero parents can produce a gay child raised in a straight environment and too produce adulterous hetero children and down-low children and female chir'ens who get pregnant before adulthood and male chir'ens who disrespect women, etceteras, it stands to reason the same is exactly the case f two gay parents...that they could raise gay and/or straight children, that they too could grow up to be abuser because the witnessed dad and dad or mom and mom beat and abuse each other, no different that hetero couples do. To me the parenting thing is about give love and guidance to a child who would not otherwise have it. Love is love to a child.

I think the creator of this universe wanted the offspring of men to live in the very type of arrangements necessary to produce said offspring. The love of two men produces no offspring. Hell, the love of two men cannot even match the evil, hateful act of heterosexual rape. Even rape can produce a child. Two men or two women can only produce confusion. And it is this confusion our children should be spared from!

Heterosexuals, by example and ignorance are literally helping homosexuals to adopt and obtain marriage. Didn't know if anyone else noticed that or not.  My parents always taught me that it's not what you say that speaks, it's what you do, and we heterosexuals have been doing a good deal of life and marriage wrong and in opposition of The Bible we 'claim' to have Faith. Reality check is a real motha for ya!

The words and the prophecy of this same book still sit unchanged and unaltered even to this day. We still are right on schedule – Right down to the newly released Micro-chip technology that will make the “Mark of the Beast” possible. Nothing has changed. Evil people are still doing evil and God’s people (as relatively few as they are in numbers) still have faith.

This has never been a popularity contest!

 

 

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Whaz up to TheAmerican!.  Yours is very valid in that context, however mine was not to speak as to "popularity." Mine was to show 'for real though' how we, repeatedly, are the best weapons formed against ourselves that are prospering, in hope that we will tighten up our personal walks and talk, and instead of singing "taking back what the devil stole from me," we will actually start doing so, beginnig with the reflection in the mirror each morning. 

As for the confusion our children should be spared from, I personally think that our Christian and heterosexual lifestyles, of fathers raping daughter, of parents beating children to death, of adult controlled television and radio, of lip-service Christianity, of parental 'do as I say do not as I do' mentality, of the generational child brain rape via the Sandman, the Toothfairy, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus have confused our children enough, since the beginning of time, as evident by the reaped harvest generation after generation. So the gay parent  'confusion' theory is very, very, very, weak.

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"When you know better you should do better." Maya Angelou.
"And if you choose not to do better, you get what you get...and I don't want to hear about it." Prince Emerald Falcon

^^^^ Emerald - What happening!

I Look in the mirror every morning and sometimes I don't like who's staring back at me. But every day I say and sometimes just think - The Lord's prayer......."give us THIS day".......THY WILL (Not Mine) be done thy kingdom come........

I could be on my way right to hell, but I know someone is going to make it.......someone is going to go through........It may even be a child that is being raised in the madness of a gay household.......but God's going to call and set aside that which is his own.......That's a promise!

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dat_top_notch_diva - Please. Your post couldn't challenge my intelligence. I responded overall with my opinion.

Hello I am a lesbian and to be perfectly honest with you I have been with my partner for 7 years. I don't nessesarilly have to have a ceremony to profess my love for her. We have our ups and downs like every other couple out there. I love her she loves me and were together and we plan on being together until we die. That is what matters. If you can look at your partner and you feel in your heart and soul you ask your self this question Can I live without this person yes I can do I want to NO I DO NOT that is what is important. The other is just bureucratic nonsense to me. Who is to tell me who I can or can't love.... that in itself is wrong. If that is the case then you would be the type people that would say that people of different races shouldn't marry. Or people of different faiths shouldn't wed... it doesn't matter. Lenny Kravitz once sang LET LOVE RULE.

Really if it is a negroid gay with another negroid then so be it.  The key here is to keep the negroid/negresses from reproducing.  Really this country cannot take more welfare, food stamps, crack dealing, carjacking, unwanted pregnancies of mongrels/blacks.  Yes, gay marraige for all negroes should be encouraged.  If a negress/gay gets pregnant a DNA test should be done to determine if we have a mongrel/mixed breed.  If it is then mandatory abortion would be appropriate.  You have been cursed as a negroid, you should feel obligated to keep other negroids from entering this world. Hell, if I were some sort of freak of nature I wouldn't want others like me!   If we had no negresses/negroids prisons would be 80% empty, vd clinics would go out of business, cops would lose all funding because the real war on crime would  be over, Columbian drug lords would go out of business because White People have enough  brains to not do crack.  I mean come on if you love this country support the measures suggested here.

I think anyone who wants to marry should be able to,gay or not.Its funny that if i live with a woman for a certain period of time ,they will pull that common law *73* even if we dont want to marry.

I say they should be able to be married. Just as I don't want the government telling me what religion I can be, I don't want government used to force people to follow the laws of another's religion. That's really what not letting them get married is. Trying to force them to abide by someone else's religion. If the only reason for making a law is "it's a sin" that's a bad reason. My freedom of religon is important to me. Yes, I think it's a sin, but I'm not in their shoes or religion and I do believe they should have that freedom too.

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Vote for McCain-Palin 08'
You just can't beat her experience of running Alaska 2 years and his 30 years of running his mouth! You can SEE Russia from Alaska, people!

Hey Jim Crowe what is your dadgum problem there is nothing wrong with being black you must be racist. Its not a curse to be a negroid whatever. I am white so I don't know what the hexx planet you came from, but you need to return to it. You must be the type of person that thinks that black people need to return to Africa am I correct let me express to you our ancestors brought them here to do our "dirty" work because we were to dadgum lazy and to friggin cheap to pay a white worker to do and it is still going on today.... so please Jim Crowe kiss my southern white butt. Why don't you pack your bags and every thread of your belongings and your family as well and go back to Europe. I know that in the United States we have what is the first amendment rights to free speech, there are certian responsibilties to that right. I am not a politically correct person I will not call a black person an African-American because if that was so then white people would be called European-Americans and those with an Asian background would be Asian-American, and same with those with Latina heritage would be Latina-Americans NO NO NO NO Jim Crowe we are AMERICANS until you can get that through your head then you should take your cold heart and fibble mind elsewhere.