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    01-10-2008, 6:34 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Attention All Truth fighters, There is a new website out selling T-Shirts (Apparel is the word their using to sound high class). They are selling these shirts with phrases like “*8* Al “Permed Out” Sharpton”. I think we need to keep an eye out on them to make sure this does not take off any further. Maybe somebody can take this Brother Al and maybe he can say something about it on his radio talk show. . http://www.rebelrockinc.com
  
    01-11-2008, 2:26 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

 olounwa wrote:AusarAmenRa, that was a good post . African traditional beliefs do have a strong element of sprituality that is non white and has nothing to do with their influence. I am thinking of the various yoruba god's like "SHANGO". The god of Thunder/Iron . You can see the film of his story on "obe tv" and online. We have a very rich cultural heritage that american blacks cannot share as they have been cut off years ago .but education can make up for lost ground.it just is not a priority for you . Pity

Hotep - Olounwa

You are too kind. I am thinking of those as well as Ifa, Ju Ju and Bantu. You know what is disturbing is the Africans killing Africans. The Africans that don't refer themselves as African but refer themselves as Arab. Arab Africans killing African Muslims. Darfur is crazy. What affects your country effects ours.

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    01-11-2008, 5:45 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
truthfighter these kinds of things are symptoms of a sinful nature. Maybe we can share the good news of God's Love Through Jesus Christ,and those T- shirts will have words that gloryfy God. Christ is the Savior of the world.
  
    01-13-2008, 5:54 AM
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"AusarAmenRa

"olounwa" WROTE:

AusarAmenRa, that was a good post . African traditional beliefs do have a strong element of sprituality that is non white and has nothing to do with their influence. I am thinking of the various yoruba god's like "SHANGO". The god of Thunder/Iron . You can see the film of his story on "obe tv" and online. We have a very rich cultural heritage that american blacks cannot share as they have been cut off years ago .but education can make up for lost ground.it just is not a priority for you . Pity

 

Hotep - Olounwa

You are too kind. I am thinking of those as well as Ifa, Ju Ju and Bantu. You know what is disturbing is the Africans killing Africans. The Africans that don't refer themselves as African but refer themselves as Arab. Arab Africans killing African Muslims. Darfur is crazy. What affects your country effects ours.

Heaven is at the foot of Mother...

YOU HAVE A RESPECT AND UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF OUR CULTURES THAT AM AFRAID IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOUR FELLOW BLACKS CAN SHARE. EVEN THOUGH I FIND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAY A BIT OUT THERE, ITS NOT AS OUT THERE AS CONSCIOUS WHO I FEAR IS SO OUT THERE HE ISNT EVER COMING BACK.. I DEAL IN REALITY, NOT FANSTASY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FEW AMERICAN BLACKS THAT HAVE A GENIUNINE INTEREST IN AFRICAN CULTURES DO MORE RESEARCH ON IT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT ON HERE. ITS NOT FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT , ITS FOR YOUR PEOPLE'S GROWTH AND UNDERSTANDING . SO FAR, I HAVE NOT SEEN IN ON BET MUCH. AFRICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE OF CONFLICT..THE WHITES JUST MADE IT MORE EASIER BY SELLING ARMS TO WARRING FACTIONS AND SUPPORTING ONE REGIME AGAINST ANOTHER , BUT ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES . ITS THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE BLACKS OUTSIDE AFRICA... IF WE WERE ALL PEACEFUL THERE WOULD BE NO SLAVE TRADE OUTSIDE AFRICA ,THEREFORE U WOULDNT EXIST . EVER HEARD OF THE HUNDRED YRS YORUBA WARS?. THEY WERE ALWAYS FIGHTING AMONGST THEMSELVES. THATS WHERE MANY SLAVES WERE SOLD TO WHITES . MANY OF YOU WOULD BE DESCENDANTS OF THE PRISONERS OF WAR SOLD ON ... IT GOES ON. BUT WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN IS TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN DOING THEIR OWN RESEARCH INTO THE VARIOUS CULTURES AND LANGUAGES.. IF  WHITES CAN SPEAK FLUENT YORUBA, EFIK IBO, SHEKIRI, HAUSA, FULANI , WHY CANT BLACKS?. AND AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT A FEW LANGUAGES NIGERIA HAS 248 DIFFERENT DIALECTS TO CHOOSE FROM.. WITHIN THESE LANGUAGES.. WHITE PEOPLE DONT LIKE US MUCH..NIGERIANS ARE THE MOST HATED AS WE ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO INTIMIDATE ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.. WHAT PROTECTS US?. OUR CULTURE.. EVEN THOUGH WE TRAVEL FAR AND TEND TO COLONISE A PLACE .( DUBAI IS THE LAST POPULAR DESTINATION TO DATE) OUR PEOPLE WILL NOT GO WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO TRAVEL BACK HOME . MOST OF YOU ARE NOT ENCOURAGED TO SEE FOR YOURSELVES WHAT AFRICA IS LIKE, YOU MOSTLY HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE VIEW OF OUR CONTINENT BASED ON WHITE PROPAGANDA AND THE NEWS WHICH IS ALWAYS SLANTED ANYWAY, YET ISNT ALL NEWS SLANTED TO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER?. TOO FEW A A 'S TRAVEL OUTSIDE THEIR COMFORT ZONES..WHITE AMERICANS SEEM TO BE MORE ADVENTUROUS AND READY TO TAKE ON THE ROUGH AS WELL AS THE SMOOTH..


poor fulloish banned from ebony city cos he aint "Kool"..lol!.his crybaby antics on bet.. more than priceless!!
  
    01-16-2008, 7:46 PM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

"YOU HAVE A RESPECT AND UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF OUR CULTURES THAT AM AFRAID IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOUR FELLOW BLACKS CAN SHARE. EVEN THOUGH I FIND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAY A BIT OUT THERE, ITS NOT AS OUT THERE AS CONSCIOUS WHO I FEAR IS SO OUT THERE HE ISNT EVER COMING BACK.. I DEAL IN REALITY, NOT FANSTASY. "

I will forever be a student and will never claim to be anything else.  Bless U, I try to embrace all of my past and not be selective.

"I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FEW AMERICAN BLACKS THAT HAVE A GENIUNINE INTEREST IN AFRICAN CULTURES DO MORE RESEARCH ON IT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT ON HERE. ITS NOT FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT , ITS FOR YOUR PEOPLE'S GROWTH AND UNDERSTANDING . SO FAR, I HAVE NOT SEEN IN ON BET MUCH. "

Not many want to neither grow nor understand what they don’t know.  It is not encouraged here in the states.  It’s almost like some parts of Africa where the people only know about Jesus and Martin Luther King. Some may not even know the name of their president but they know all about Jesus and King.  If our parents don’t know there will be a great chance that we will not know, like our parents.  You will not see it much here due to our main interest and age group of our views.

"AFRICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE OF CONFLICT..THE WHITES JUST MADE IT MORE EASIER BY SELLING ARMS TO WARRING FACTIONS AND SUPPORTING ONE REGIME AGAINST ANOTHER , BUT ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES . ITS THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE BLACKS OUTSIDE AFRICA..."

True, but keep in mind we always were a traveling people. We never stayed in one place, but I understand the point you’ve made. We’ve had this problem just before the Greeks period.

"IF WE WERE ALL PEACEFUL THERE WOULD BE NO SLAVE TRADE OUTSIDE AFRICA ,THEREFORE U WOULDNT EXIST . "

Probably & probably not I think there is no telling who or where we would have become.  I think I would exist despite the situation. I think as long as my genetic material is of African decent, I will be… therefore I AM.

EVER HEARD OF THE HUNDRED YRS YORUBA WARS?. THEY WERE ALWAYS FIGHTING AMONGST THEMSELVES. THATS WHERE MANY SLAVES WERE SOLD TO WHITES . MANY OF YOU WOULD BE DESCENDANTS OF THE PRISONERS OF WAR SOLD ON ...

Every Tribe or Clan go thru their tribal wars.  It always starts with the family, the tribe, the community, the state and so on.  Wars always start at home. However, our term has been interrupted by outsiders, like no other people.

"IT GOES ON. BUT WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN IS TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN DOING THEIR OWN RESEARCH INTO THE VARIOUS CULTURES AND LANGUAGES.. IF  WHITES CAN SPEAK FLUENT YORUBA, EFIK IBO, SHEKIRI, HAUSA, FULANI , WHY CANT BLACKS?. "

Just remember we in the States live in a shake and bake society. We tend to want things in an instant you know a microwave era.  If they don’t offer it as a primary class in order to graduate they will not take it upon themselves to invest.  Besides, America teaches us to look the other way when it comes to Africa. They teach us that there is nothing in Africa, nothing worth knowing.

"AND AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT A FEW LANGUAGES NIGERIA HAS 248 DIFFERENT DIALECTS TO CHOOSE FROM.. WITHIN THESE LANGUAGES.. WHITE PEOPLE DONT LIKE US MUCH..NIGERIANS ARE THE MOST HATED AS WE ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO INTIMIDATE ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.. WHAT PROTECTS US?. OUR CULTURE.. EVEN THOUGH WE TRAVEL FAR AND TEND TO COLONISE A PLACE .( DUBAI IS THE LAST POPULAR DESTINATION TO DATE) OUR PEOPLE WILL NOT GO WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO TRAVEL BACK HOME . MOST OF YOU ARE NOT ENCOURAGED TO SEE FOR YOURSELVES WHAT AFRICA IS LIKE, YOU MOSTLY HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE VIEW OF OUR CONTINENT BASED ON WHITE PROPAGANDA AND THE NEWS WHICH IS ALWAYS SLANTED ANYWAY, YET ISNT ALL NEWS SLANTED TO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER?. TOO FEW A A 'S TRAVEL OUTSIDE THEIR COMFORT ZONES..WHITE AMERICANS SEEM TO BE MORE ADVENTUROUS AND READY TO TAKE ON THE ROUGH AS WELL AS THE SMOOTH.. "

True but keep in mind of the displaced people and what happens to a people who are disconnected from their roots.  Everybody on earth has their roots or knowledge of self. This is not so for the American Black.  For the most part he/she is living in Frankenstein mode. A Frankenstein man will never survive outside of his comfort zone.

  
    01-28-2008, 11:53 AM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution

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    04-04-2008, 4:41 AM
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YOU KNOW, AUSAR, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU TAKE THE TIME TO EXPLAIN CERTAIN THINGS TO ME THAT WILL NOT BE APPARENT AS I HAVE NEVER ENCOUNTERED THEM. BLACK AFRICANS THINK SO DIFFERENTLY FROM AMERICAN AND CARRIBEAN BLACKS, IN THE UK WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFLICT AND ITS OPEN BECAUSE OF THE CLASH OF CULTURE... AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE SHOULD ALL THINK ALIKE DESPITE THE FACT THAT AFRICANS AND OTHER BLACKS HAVE DEVELOPED IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PATTERNS AND NOW HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON CULTURALLY. YOU ARE RIGHT, YOUR TRAINING HAS BROUGHT YOU TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE IS NOTHING OF ANY USE FOR YOU IN AFRICA..BUT WHITES KNOW DIFFERENT AS THEY ARE STILL TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THAT CONTINENT HAS TO OFFER.BUT WHAT ASTONISHES ME IS THE WAY AMERICAN BLACKS STILL, DESPITE ALL THE YELLING, LOOK UP TO WHITES TO THE EXTENT THEY STILL DO AND STILL BEG FOR HIS APPROVAL. NOW, IT HAS EMERGED THAT ASAD IS ACTUALLY A WHITE RUSSIAN EMIGRE .NOT THE BLACK MAN HE PORTRAYED HIMSELF TO BE..SO, WHEN HE IS ARGUING WITH YOU ITS FROM WHAT STAND POINT EXACTLY I WONDER?. A WHITEMAN COMING ONTO A BLACK MESSAGE BOARD, CALLING BLACKS *6*/S AND TALKING LIKE SOME BLACK STREET PUNK WHEN HE IS A WHITE WANNABE BLACK STREET PUNK.!!LOL!! WONDERS WILL NEVER CEASE AND NOW, I HAVE READ IT ALL/!!!
poor fulloish banned from ebony city cos he aint "Kool"..lol!.his crybaby antics on bet.. more than priceless!!
  
    04-28-2008, 5:55 PM
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Religion is a crutch for the weak.
The worst government is the most moral. One composed of cynics is often very tolerant and humane. But when fanatics are on top there is no limit to oppression.
  
    05-15-2008, 12:24 AM
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AusarAmenRa,

I came upon your statements regarding your believe that out of all religions, Islam was the one that you feel has the best chance to help people become rightous or "good human beings". I too believe that many religions including Judaism, Christianity, Islam, as well as Hinduism and as discussed by Dr. Ben, the great Egyptians Gods and Godesses, as well as the indegenous religions throughout Mother Africa, have the ability to give people a road to follow. However, I am confused and perhaps you can give me your opinion on the following. I have been a teacher for over 25 years, teaching Social Studies in Miami, Fl. and one of the subjects that I taught is World History. After many years of teaching this subject, it becomes clear that Africa is the birth place of man and of what we call civilization. No question for me. Now, when I say man, I mean all men, not just those of darker skin or brown skin etc. I am from Cuba and grew up in a diverse society where Yoruba religion was part of everyday life, but where Christianity, Judaism all live together. The more I study cultures the more clear it becomes that we have to all reeducate ourselves because the victors, Europeans, have written most of the books and therefore have indoctrinized us into believing in a false history of the world. Why do we need religion to learn the truth? I was brought up Catholic and now see it is all made up by power hungry people. I see the same in all of the other religions. Who cannot see the influence of Africa? What I don't understand is why not teach that without all the race division? Religions are all stories to explain what we as human beings cannot explain through science. I mean no disrespect to anyone who is a follower, but I don't believe that arguments about which religion is better will solve our ignorance, only continous study of facts that can be proven will do that. When I hear whites making generalizations about blacks and vice versa, I don't see a difference between either one, they are both wrong. I know that the Greek Gods came from the Egyptians, I know that much of the architecture did too, the technology, philosophy etc. I know because I have read many books and have seen these things myself and that to me is Truth, not the Bible or the Koran or the Torah. Why must religion be part of this discussion? Monotheism, polytheism...so what? Religion is just another weapon for those in power to keep the people of the world from coming together and actually solving the problems that all our brothers and sisters face.I ask you with all due respect to explain this to me. Do you believe that man evolved in Africa and spread throughout the world? I do, and because I do, I taught all my students and my own children that we are all Africans and we must learn from the mistakes of all those who came before us, so that eventually we all will come to realize that we are one people, with the same basic needs and wants, and that we must share what Mother Earth has provided. What do yousay to this my brother? Peace to all sentient beings.

  
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