12-23-2007, 5:33 PM
AusarAmenRa
Joined on 03-07-2007
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
You have to know about darkness and what was before-before one can run into the light. There was activity during the darkness. Black: The key carbon of life within the universe. Black: the key carbon Atom for life within the universe. Black: where a baby is born, Black; to plant the seed of life within the earth. Blackness; the color of mother earth’s womb. You tell my people to look away. I can easily place holes into you belief system.
In Genesis they say in the beginning “let it be light” what was it before that? What was before the light? There was Blackness before the light. Before the light there was us.
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12-23-2007, 5:36 PM
AusarAmenRa
Joined on 03-07-2007
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
You believe the European version of your African story. You must be made aware that there is a historical Jesus and there is a biblical Jesus. Biblically Jesus never existed. I understand your way of thinking and this is when you have when your enemy becomes your deity. Do you understand what I mean by saying this? Say it again to yourself “Your enemy becomes your deity.” White folks took Jesus and change him. Jesus who was first, historically a revolutionary fought against Rome was change into a white Jesus biblical figure. They took him out of Africa and placed him in the Middle East. Pope Julis II commissioned Michelangelo to paint Jesus from Black to White. This is spiritual enslavement.
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12-23-2007, 5:42 PM
AusarAmenRa
Joined on 03-07-2007
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
When your Jesus is white and your oppressor is white you can not fight your enemy because after all Jesus is white. And they have moved that image all over the world. That’s spiritual enslavement and brother you got it bad. There is nothing wrong with Christianity because Christianity comes from African people. What I am saying is that the cake is right but you have the wrong icing on the cake.
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12-23-2007, 8:21 PM
jorgecharisse
Joined on 12-02-2007
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‘Put down your weapons’, ‘common ground’, ‘adapt’, ‘more modest presentation’, ‘tone it down a little’: all these phrases made by merciful008 and consciousbrahtha are why I have said you must know who it is that you are on the battle field with at all times.------------------------------------------------------------------Merciful008 if Organicone puts down their weapons what are they going to fight with? And adapting, that is the problem. You are what I would call a simp, short for simpleton or foolish person. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Because you think you can win this war for Jesus Christ and you yet walk in fear of offending your opponent. You are ‘skimping’ on the weaponry factor when you deal with or handle the word of God. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------The word said in Deuteronomy to send folk like you home because you are fearful and your fear will beget more fear and then not only are you useless for the kingdom but now those who have followed you are useless as well.---------------------------------------------The word said to cast down, thrown down, burn, destroy every altar of the enemy. How do you do this nicely merciful008? I am all about dismantling anything that pertains to the kingdom of God and it is skimping on who He is and what His standards are. This involves combat, not piety that is worldly and you are trying to do just that by implementing what you have seen in the world into your witness for Jesus Christ.---------------------------------------------------And yes I do mean to be hard on you because you fail to see your failure in what you are standing in front of. ConsciousBrahtha and this AmenRa fellow are not what you would call friends of yours. They are for the other side and unless you win them then you are their enemies. Just listen to what they are saying, it doesn't agree with any part of me at all. ConsciousBrahtha is not almost anywhere Merciful008, you are fooling yourself-----------------------------------------------------We love all men, but not all men love us. And you need to be aware of that at all times. Less you find yourself looking back like Lot's wife and turning into something that will last a life time.------------There is a solution: serve Jesus Christ or get out of the way.
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12-23-2007, 9:33 PM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
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I agree with Jorge. When you read the book of revelations,and see people going to the lake of of fire along with Satan ,fallen angels,and false prophets,you would want to share the good new of Jesus christ with a hopeless people. Rev.20 chapter. The gospel of Christ has the power to refute any doctrine,because the gospel is life substaining,and giving of eternal life. We have a passion to reach souls for christ.. Proverb11:30 " he that win souls is wise".
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12-23-2007, 11:42 PM
Merciful008
Joined on 03-28-2006
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Hey Jorge I can see your point, I actually re-read what was stated in a couple of my post and it can be argued and it even appears as if I'm siding with an enemy of some sort. Forgive me, I pray that I will do better the next time. Peace....and until we meet here the next time may GOD have mercy upon you.
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.
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12-24-2007, 10:58 AM
jorgecharisse
Joined on 12-02-2007
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Re: To Merciful008, I know it's long but please read it all
Merciful008, you are not far from the kingdom. And I do not mean that in the sense of you being a babe in the Lord; I do not know you personally, I have not seen your lifestyle play out before me. What I mean is that you have fought your way out of a hole that the enemy was digging for you, and that whole was called conformity. But the ground is slippery so make sure that you don’t fall back in it.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I would like to share something with you; there are 3 main scriptures that have kept me rooted, grounded, alert, watchful and aware of the times and who it is that is around me. And never forget that the Lord has said to “try” every spirit, and every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, which you have heard that it should come; and even now already it is in the world.----------------------------------------------This word ‘try’, what do you think it means? Look at how it is translated and the definition of it. Dokimazō which is pronounced do-kē-mä'-zō. 1) To test, examine, prove, scrutinize (to see whether a thing is genuine or not), as metals. 2) To recognize as genuine after examination, to approve, deem worthy.------------------------------------------------------------------------------Think on this scripture for a moment and allow your mind’s eye to look at it; take your natural eyes off of it. Allow the Spirit of God to give you its meaning.-------------------------------------------------But the 3 scriptures that I always remember are these:------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Chronicles 11:12-14, “12 And after him was Eleazar the son of Dodo, the Ahohite, who was one of the three mighties. 13 He was with David at Pasdammim, and there the Philistines were gathered together to battle, where was a parcel of ground full of barley; and the people fled from before the Philistines. 14 And they set themselves in the midst of that parcel, and delivered it, and slew the Philistines; and the LORD saved them by a great deliverance.” Notice 2 things; the rest of the people fled or ran away, and then David and Eleazar SET THEMSELVES, made themselves ready for what was about to take place. This is what I have tried to instill in you.-----------------------------SET YOURSELF Merciful008, and get ready for what is coming next.--------------------------------------------Look at how 2 Samuel 23:9-10 finishes telling this same exact story: 9 And after him was Eleazar the son of Dodo the Ahohite, one of the three mighty men WITH David, when they defied the Philistines that were there gathered together to battle, and the men of Israel were gone away. 10 He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.---------------------------------------------------------------The men of Israel were GONE AWAY; not everybody stays to see God get the glory and the victory Merciful008. His hand was so tired it was hard for him to even lift his sword. But look at how God gets the glory in everything that we do; God would not allow him to fail in his attack against the Philistines. If you just put your complete trust in Him you will not fail. And the people returned to gather of the spoil; that is how most people are. They don’t put any work in but they want to take credit for dismantling the kingdom of the devil. But we are on the front line throwing it down and putting our feet on the necks of our enemies (Joshua 10:24).-------------------------------------------------------------Now look at this next one and always remember what the word of God has said to you.----------------------------------------------------Isaiah 8:19-20, “And when the people, instead of putting their trust in God, shall say to you, Consult mediums and wizards who chirp and mutter for direction, you are to say, Should not a people seek and consult their God? Should they consult the dead on behalf of the living? Direct such people to the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Light reveals, it makes known Merciful008, you know this. Continue to walk in the truth of the light and follow the Spirit and He will lead you to speak even as David spoke in 1 Samuel 10:26; “what shall be done for the man that takes away the reproach from the people?”
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12-24-2007, 4:51 PM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Ausar. What mankind does with the scriptures to create thier own gods or whether the people are black,white red,yellow,or polka dot, this does not have any revelency to the truth of the bible. A wild beast can destroy the bible,would that make the bible bad because a beast destroyed it? Wars has been fought because man misinterpret the scriptures with the natural mind. Yes ,even slavery can been condone by some who has read the bible. Does those this have any effect on the living scriptures. No, outsorces of the scriptures is not revelent to what is written. White ,or any color does not have anything to do with the written word. God and His word supercedes any out side force. RACISM CAN BLIND YOU TO THE WRITTEN AND LIVING WORD OF GOD. GOD IS LOVE. RACISM IS ANTI-GOD.
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12-26-2007, 9:51 AM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Nothing in this brotha post imply a racist tone, I am hard pressed to find anything that establishes that premise. But when you dont have a leg to stand on you will stand for anything.
Let me ask this questions. Can you name me any land that the Caucasion race have ever gone into and not caused turmoil, dis-ease, murder, and all aorund destruction?? People dont understand that we are dealing with a people who are lacking in common morals and values let alone virtues. These are the people who have constructed the bible. All you can do is ignore this FACT, but there is no denying this, because its history. Can you say the same for the anscetsors that you know nothing about?? But hey we are a culture addicted to the western man. Remeber it is him who freed us because we were savages in Afrika worshiping many gods right?? Oh how we love to be miseducated.
1Love4life
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12-26-2007, 5:18 PM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Bratha. the brotha whole tone was racist. When you use the white race to denounce the bible.that is racism. I dont think no man can create a life changing and life substaining book as the bible. I became a new creation(spiritually) by reading the bible and getting the revelation of our great God through faith in Christ. You can never convince me that any man is cable of creating such a Book. Blk,wht,yellow ,red ,or polka dot. The use of hate for the caucasian can never convert any true believes. Hate mongers will gravitate to anything that satisfies the flesh. I don't know much about my ancestors,but I know about the ONE who created my ancestors. We are wasting precious time debating,there are many people in the world who are walking in darness,should hear about God's marvelous Light......Jesus Christ.
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12-26-2007, 10:46 PM
Merciful008
Joined on 03-28-2006
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Line upon line, precept upon precept upon precept; bless your food by giving thanks for what you are about to receive.
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.
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12-27-2007, 12:37 AM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Too God be the Glory for then He has done,and are doing,and can do. Praise Him with all our soul,heart and strenght.
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12-27-2007, 10:51 AM
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Organic,
You stated "I don't know much about my ancestors,but I know about the ONE who created my ancestors." I could shot a barage of questions at you that would make your head spin in regards to how much you really know about the ONE, however the level of programing you are under in relation to your ego will not let you even begin to synthasize my that information.
I believe your statement pretty much sums up the knowledge, wisdom and understanding you have in regards to the originality of the post. I am afraid you are only further proving my point, that you have been trained and told what to belive and never to question it.
How can brotha Amens tone be racist. He is only telling you the Truth. You have not disputed one thing either of us have said in this entire discussion. And you cant even see it. because YOU dont KNOW as you stated earlier.
You even stated "You can never convince me that any man is cable of creating such a Book. Blk,wht,yellow ,red ,or polka dot." You said it yourself you dont know the history of your anscestors. Im not trying to convince you because you have already been convinced.
1love
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12-27-2007, 6:51 PM
organicone
Joined on 06-22-2007
Posts 998
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
Too God be the Glory for the great things He has done,and is doing,and what he is going to do. Praise His Holy name!
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12-28-2007, 9:01 PM
AusarAmenRa
Joined on 03-07-2007
Posts 282
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Re: Religion? Why Do We Go Back and Forth but Never Come To An Solution
The use of hate for the caucasian can never convert any true believes.
Wow is that what you’ve gotten from my post? You may be in denial. For every action there is a reaction. The Black man can not be racist. In fact he is the victim of racism. What you are witnessing is the reaction of racism. You appear foolish knowing history if any to defend those that placed you collectively in a conquered state. They have taken over most of the world and replaced it with death, lies, destruction and a book for you to read and you lapped it up. You are supposed to at least question authority. The sad thing is that you don’t see anything wrong with it.
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