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    11-21-2007, 7:09 PM
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Lightning [li] How The Church Harms the Black Community

Let's be clear!  I'm not here to make freinds.  If that were the case, then I'd have to remain silent on real issues.  I'm only here to expose you to the Truth.  If it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth, so be it.  I'm not looking for your praises.  It is not the tradition of God's people to be praised by infidels.  If I were Moses, you'd chase me out of town.  If I were Jesus, you'd nail me to a cross. 

The Message of God doesn't change with the times.  For the Believer it is good news, and for the Infidel it is a warning.  Allah (God) is a witness over all of us, and we will all be called to account. 

How the Church harms the Black Community:

Recently, a young 18 year old boy was shot down by the police on Gates and Throop in BedStuy, Brooklyn.  This outraged Bloods and Crips alike, to the point that they were ready to unite for Justice (your worst nightmare, o you enemy of Black people).  Everyone was clear on the fact that the police in New York have established a tradition of pumping multiple bullets into innocent Black and Spanish people.

The following day, people demonstrated while the police were busy investigating the scene i.e. cover up.  Those who were present, agreed to meet at a chruch down the street at 6PM that evening.

In church, young people told stories of how they were harassed, beaten, and had their money confiscated by the police for no reason.  Some community members remained out side of the church.  The preachers said "Come on in and fellowship with us anytime" and "We need to open our doors to the youth who have problems out here in these streets"  By the time the meeting was finished, those who attended the Church meeting were talking about how THEY needed to change their own behavior.  In Church they preached "You need to stop wearing those Nike sneakers, etc., and a whole bunch of other irrelevant BS.

Conclusion:  Those who listened to the preachers in church were somehow convinced that the death of an innocent young man was due to the behavior of Black people who lived in the community, and not because the police simply shot and killed another INNOCENT youth. 

Wake Up You Bunch of Church Going Fools!

The Black Church was established on the plantation to keep you slave minded negros in darkness and at each others throats.  It was established to justify the crimes commited against you, and to blame YOU for those crimes.  The end result of that meeting in BedStuy was that the kids who were originally united for Justice, wound up fighting amonst each other outside of the church because they now differed in opinion.  The Black church did that!  The Black church once again divided the community, and sided with injustice.  Not one of those preachers came outside of the church to break up the fight.  Why would they!

Sollution:

We must realise that the Black church is just as dangerous to the Black commnity as crack houses, grease pits, and LQ strores.  So long as the Black Church has influence in the Black Community, Black people will NEVER be free. 

PS- The Black Church did NOTHING to gain civil rights for Black people!  You negros need to face this fact.  It was the Nation of Islam and later the Black Panthers who made changes in the Black community.  MLK wasn't killed until he realised what the Muslims and the Panthers were saying, and he began speaking in the tone of revolution (not church indoctrination).  So long as he was the good negro preacher, the enemy of Black people allowed him preach to the masses.  They busted him upside the head, sicked dogs on him, locked him up, and all of that other stuff that they've been doing to our people since we got here. 

When MLK went against the ole Negro church traditions of mental bondage, only then was he considered a threat. 

Staright Up! Christians can't take credit for a damn thing when it comes to the liberation of our people.  It was Christianity that put us into slavery.  Al Sharpton wasn't out there with the people when this thing went down.  Al Sharpton was no where to be found until the negros calmed down and the cameras were turned on at the funeral.  So as long as you call your self Christian, expect your enemies to gun you down without mercy, whenever they choose to do so.  Don't cry about it negro.  Maybe one day you will look at the Iraqis and the Palestinians, and you will realise what it takes to be free.  Those of you who live in the hood know what I'm saying is True. 

 

 


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    11-21-2007, 8:13 PM
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Idea [I] Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community

Kudos to the 5th power!

Our Christian family does not like to hear these types of statements, but it is really true even if some are offended by it. We can not keep telling our people to overlook these crimes and tell them it's their fault and to forgive people for things that they have no intention on stop doing.

It's a simple math problem when you look at it. If Christianity was teaching the right way to live, why are so many of our people in peril? Jesus said the truth shall set us free, so why then are the majority of our people so ignorant and living savagely? Christianity is what help make us into slaves. It is not a threat to those who wish to keep us death, dumb, and blind.

There is a church on pretty much every street corner here in America, but yet the people are growing more and more crazed by the day. You can walk into any cheap motel or restroom and find a copy of the Bible....but how many people really even live by half of what they say they believe? Imagine if a Mosque was on every corner in America. There is no way this society would be in such moral decay.

Not to turn this into a Islam vs. Christianity debate, but I want us to put our thinking caps on and really ask ourselves what has the Black church brought to the Black community in the past 400 yrs? Do we respect the Black churches? Are they making a difference in our communities? Does the church have an influence on the youth of today?

Our children are lashing out and they have to be taught a new word and showed a better reality than what we had back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. These children are fearless and they are not buying that "love your enemy" mess any more. They will cut you down in cold blood. So I say to my Black Christian family, start teaching the youth on current events and how the Bible relates to us in present and future tense. What happened 2000 & 4000 years ago has little bearing on our reality TODAY.


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    11-21-2007, 9:40 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
IT IS B/C IT IS THE END OF TIME...IT WILL ONLII GET WORSE NOT! BETTER...PERIOD...IT ALSO SAYS THAT IN THE BIBLE...MANKIND IS NOT GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE HOLY BY THE DAYS...IT WILL GROW FARTHER AWAY...GOD HAS CHOSEN THE FAITHFUL FOR HIMSELF.......BELIVE IN THE WORD THAT HE SENT THAT BECAME FLESH AND WAS NAMED JESUS TO SAVE THE WORLD AND U WILL BE SAVED....THE WORD IS THE BEGOTTEN SON THAT SITS AT HIS RIGHT HAND.....IT IS THRU HIM THAT U WILL GET TO THE FATHER.*********AND AS FAR AS SAYING...IF IM A CHRISTIAN EXPECT UR ENEMIES TO GUN U DOWN W/O MERCY.....LOLZ...WOW...UR POINT IN THAT STATEMENT IS WHAT??!!!...WE ALREADY KNOW THAT...JESUS WAS KILLED BY HIS ENEMIES....AND WAS RISEN BY THE FATHER...LIKE MY OLD SIGNITURE USED TO SAY....IN MATT: DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THE ONE THAT CAN KILL THE BODY! AND NOT THE SOUL. RATHER BE AFRAID OF THE ONE THAT CAN DESTROY! THE BODY AND THE SOUL IN HELL!....AND GUESS WHO THAT WOULD BE...NOT SOME DUDE NAMED ASAD AND SOME CHICK NAMED TRUEWISDOM OVER SOME PC...HIS NAME IS GOD!!!....NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST ME SHALL PROSPER.....I PLAN ON GOING WITH THE RAPTURE WHEN MY GOD COMES TO SAVE HIS CHILDREN...WHEN U ARE HERE LEFT ON EARTH TO FEND AGAINST THE ANTI-CHRIST..WE'LL SEE.************AS FAR AS TEACHING THESE KIDS A NEW WAY B/C WHAT HAPPENED 3-4,000 YRS AGO....AND ISLAM COMES FROM WHERE AND STARTED WHEN???...STORIES OF NOAH...YEA...IM PRETTY SURE THATS IN THE QURAN....STORIES OF ABRAHAM....MMMHHH...IM SURE THATS IN THE QURAN AS WELL...THAT STATEMENT RINGS UNTRUE AS WELL....WE WILL CONTINUE TO TEACH THE CHILDREN THE TRUE ESSENCE OF GODS WORD CUZ THAT IS WAS IS SAID TO BE DONE...WHAT THE WORLD DECIEDES TO DO IS JUST THAT....LIKE I SAID...WHEN THE RAPTURE COMES...GOD HAS CHOSEN THE FAITHFUL FOR HIMSELF...AND THOSE WILL BE THE ONES THAT HAD PARENTS AS MYSELF AS WELL AS MY MOTHER THAT HAD LED THEIR CHILDREN TO WATER OF GODS WORD.***********THANK YOU
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    11-22-2007, 8:33 PM
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Cool [H] Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
Yada Yada Yada. Your church has done nothing but divide the Black community and has kept them in darkness. Your book is fake anyway, so let's quit pretending that 'Protestant' Christians have anything to do with God or His word. There was NO bible durring the time of Christ. You people have a lot of nerve to fabricate a book and say that its God's word. Jesus came with the Injeel (Gospel), and that no longer exists on earth. Because you people rejected the Injeel then, like you reject the Quran. The bible is a fake book that distorts the Word of God, and it doesn't even deserve consideration. I can't wait until Christ returns to put you sick people in your places. When he returns he is going to break your crosses and kill your swine. And you are going to know that you are the people of satan and the anti-Christ, when you see Jesus line up with the Muslims in prayer. You are the synagog of satan, and your wicked Babylonian nation that attacks the true Believers in God (Allah), will fall. God His Self will destroy you! So to Hell with your evil institutions of idol worship and Blasphemy that you have the nerve to call Church. To Hell with your fabricated books that you used to REPLACE the original Gospels and the original Torah, and to hell with all your child molesting, swine eating, devil worshiping, homosexual preachers. You dare mention Christ in association with your satanic institutions of ignorance and darkness. Shame on you, you cross bearing demons! You wear the symbols of death around your necks and on your churches, because you are dead mentaly and spiritualy. My topic on the Negro Preachers is proof of how sick you people have become. Your own preachers make you look like the lowest of the low, abusing the pulpit for personal gain. Don't you ever call your selves Beievers in God! You are the people of the Anti-Christ and God (Allah) will destroy you for the wickedness you spread throughout the earth. No more CHURCHES, CRACKHOUSES, GREASE PITS, and LQ STORES in the black community! All of these have brought nothing but death and destruction to our people!
بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمـَنِ الرَّحِيمِ

الْحَمْدُ للّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ

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    11-23-2007, 8:49 AM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
 AsadAbdurRahman wrote:

Sollution:

We must realise that the Black church is just as dangerous to the Black commnity as crack houses, grease pits, and LQ strores.  So long as the Black Church has influence in the Black Community, Black people will NEVER be free. 

PS- MLK wasn't killed until he realised what the Muslims and the Panthers were saying, and he began speaking in the tone of revolution (not church indoctrination). . 

 

 

Comparing the Black Church to a crack house is a little extreme.

1. Since Christians are so bad, who killed Malcolm X?

2. Where is the first place people run to when they need help paying the light bill, christmas gifts, rent paid, or get fed when they have no other place to go? The Church!

3. Christianity is Christianity. What does color have to do with anything? You either believe Jesus was your savior or you don't. There will always be humans destorting the truth. Liars and perpetrators and false prophets come in all races, not just Black.


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    11-24-2007, 1:05 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
I GREW UP IN THE CHURCH BUT IT WAS FORCED UPON ME BY MY GRANDMA .I MEAN WE HAD TO GO TO CHURCH EVERY *8*ING SUNDAY LISTENING TO THOSE BORING *** SERMONS.AT 14 MY GRANDMA START HARASSING ME ABOUT GETTING BAPTIZED SAYING IF I DON'T IM GOING TO HELL BEING THAT I WAS YOUNG IWAS DUMB AND I FELL FOR THAT *73* AND GOT BAPTIZED.THROUGHOUT MY WHOLE LIFE CHRISTIANS HAVE CAUSED ME NOTHIN BUT GRIEF AND PAIN MOST OF THEM LOOK DOWN ON *6*S LIKE ME THATS WHAT TURNED ME INTO A MONSTER ASAD YOU ARE RIGHT THEY ARE HARMING OUR COMMUNITY THE MISTREATMENT THE CHRISTIANS GAVE ME TURNED ME INTO A CRAZY *** *6*.PARENTS ARE CHEATING THEIR KIDS OUT OF HAVING THEY OWN BELIEFS BUT ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES THAT HOW BLACK PEOPLE BECAME CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY SLAVE MASTERS WERE CHRISTIANS
  
    11-24-2007, 1:09 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
The black church has REMOVED itself from the community...and there is the problem right there.   Oh the BUILDING is there but the activity in the community has left YEARS ago.One more thing...I've never seen what the NOI has done for the COMMUNITY either!!!  All I see from them is trying to CONVERT people...but they are not HELPING the community!
where the KOOL people hang out....

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    11-24-2007, 1:23 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
A CHRISTIAN TRICKED MY LIL BRO INTO CONFESSING TO A DOUBLE MURDER JUST TO SOLVE HIS CASE NOW HE GOT LIFE IN PRISON AT AGE 21.I TOLD MY UNCLE WHO IS A MUSLIM AND HE ASK ME HOW CAN YOU HAVE THE SAME RELIGION AS YOUR ENEMY? I BEEN ASKING MYSELF I BELEIVE IN GOD BUT SO DO MY ENEMIES.
  
    11-24-2007, 1:40 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
 emmettmays wrote:A CHRISTIAN TRICKED MY LIL BRO INTO CONFESSING TO A DOUBLE MURDER JUST TO SOLVE HIS CASE NOW HE GOT LIFE IN PRISON AT AGE 21.I TOLD MY UNCLE WHO IS A MUSLIM AND HE ASK ME HOW CAN YOU HAVE THE SAME RELIGION AS YOUR ENEMY? I BEEN ASKING MYSELF I BELEIVE IN GOD BUT SO DO MY ENEMIES.<--------------And who exactly is your ENEMY???
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    11-24-2007, 2:29 PM
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Yes [Y] Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
Re:misssexy caramel Well said !. Its funny how black bigots on this board are quick to stick a label on you when you see that all their rants about christains are just a mask for them to hide behind . Fact is , these people are not real muslims and are not acceptable within the muslim world and they know it. Black America does not have an islamic tradition the way we have in black africa . Islam does not preach hate of other faiths . Any real muslim can tell you this . The KORAN DOES NOT HATe OTHERS .
  
    11-24-2007, 2:58 PM
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MOST OF THE PEOPLE I HATE IS CHRISTIANS NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH BUT BECAUSE THEY TALK MUCH *73* I GOT SO MANY ENEMIES HEY SWTEARL JUST CURIOUS ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?
  
    11-24-2007, 3:12 PM
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Devil [6] Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
The KORAN DOES NOT HATe OTHERS but those with a political agenda have hi-jacked the islamic faith for their OWN ends, and in THE case of the N O I, to peddle their home grown brand of RACE HATE! . IN THEIR PURE FORMS ISLAM, CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES , DO NOT PROMULGATE HATE AND KILLING BUT MAN STILL DOES THESE THINGS IN GOD'S NAME . This is man's work so i dont say attention to any form of religious bigotry from any group .
  
    11-24-2007, 3:15 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
 emmettmays wrote:MOST OF THE PEOPLE I HATE IS CHRISTIANS NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH BUT BECAUSE THEY TALK MUCH *73* I GOT SO MANY ENEMIES HEY SWTEARL JUST CURIOUS ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?<<<<<<NOPE.........NOT A CHRISTIAN...NOT MUSLIM either...I'm just here!
where the KOOL people hang out....

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    11-24-2007, 4:08 PM
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Bigotry and hate are the product of man's inhumanity to man . Its NOT ABOUT god here ,its what man does in GOD'S name . ! Besides it is said that all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely .
  
    11-24-2007, 8:31 PM
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Re: How The Church Harms the Black Community
I WILL CLAP FOR OLO FOR THAT 1...AND I DON'T DO THAT OFTEN...TO EMMET...YOUR FAITH CANNOT LIE IN PPL AND PPL ONLII...GOD WILL BE GOD NO MATTER WHAT...U ALLOWING PPL TO REMOVE YOU FORM THE TRUE BLESSINGS OF LIFE IS MST CERTANLY THE WRONG WAY TO GO
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